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Do humans always accept proofs when presented to them?
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RE: Do humans always accept proofs when presented to them?
December 27, 2015 at 2:26 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2015 at 2:26 pm by Cyberman.)
(December 27, 2015 at 1:53 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:(December 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So go ahead. Put some evidence on the table. Let's see something. God is vodka? Well, it is a holy spirit...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 27, 2015 at 2:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(December 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So go ahead. Put some evidence on the table. Let's see something. Do you recognise the fundamental difference between proof and evidence?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 27, 2015 at 2:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(December 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So go ahead. Put some evidence on the table. Let's see something. You'd like to claim it, but not demonstrate it. You haven't even managed to present proof, Mystic. You have failed, and are now pointing to a mountain of your failures as though it indicated anything other than your inability to bring forward evidence...or proof. Total nutball shit, right there.
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(December 27, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(December 27, 2015 at 2:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I've done that to be honest in various ways through out the years. I don't he does :p For OP: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the...ific-proof
That's not the strawman you're looking for. Those conjectures contradict omnipresence.
(December 25, 2015 at 11:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To be honest, I'm not sure how people cannot see what they are and the signs of God in themselves, aside from not reflecting. There's an MRI for that. What should be harder to understand is how that when it is shown repeatedly that electro-chemical stimulation produces euphoria identical to religious experience, rather than extrapolate from demonstrable physical processes, they choose to conjure some nebulous super being. That's not following hoof prints and thinking zebras, you guys are off in Griffon land. Quote:Do humans always accept proofs when presented to them? No. People have cherished beliefs that they will defend with every brain cell and cling on to despite any and all evidence shown. There is one way to get round this bias. The scientific method. How can you tell if your beliefs are likely to be wrong? When all they have going for them are arguments, you can make an argument to support anything. So if that is all you have you have nothing. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (December 25, 2015 at 11:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: A lot of people argue on the lines of the following: Short answer to your thread title: No, your belief in allah and islam proves that.
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People generally accept good proof. I think that's a part that you're missing. If I give you proof that you are actually an Octopus, but it is not good proof, are you just going to accept it?
You say God is obvious, but God is not so obvious at all. When God speaks, only individuals listen. Never large groups of people from vastly different cultures and backgrounds. Not once. For God to be obvious, he (or she) would need to speak not just to the individual, but to all. Yet no god has ever done this. No god has ever given the same set of instructions to two cultures vastly different and vastly far apart. First you would have to prove that there is a God. Then you would have to prove that it's YOUR god, and not some other god. That it's not Zeus, or Odin, or Akatosh, or Faerore, Nayru and Din. Then you would have to prove that what you say about your god is true. It's not so simple that you can spout some philosophical bullshit that sounded good to you at the time, and constitute it as proof. That's not proof. |
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