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Why people are religious
#51
RE: Why people are religious
Why people are religious ??

Maybe so they can wear stupid fucking hats ???


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#52
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 8:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If it's a false religion which is the probability most are born into, you have to reason bad, and justify badly, and follow things for no good reason, and come up with reasons to yourself that are not convincing to yourself but you go with it.

You are making excuses.

There is no such thing as reasoning badly when the truth is available and present.

Rather, you are conversing reason for your own continued suffering.
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#53
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 8:52 pm)Kitan Wrote:
(January 6, 2016 at 8:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If it's a false religion which is the probability most are born into, you have to reason bad, and justify badly, and follow things for no good reason, and come up with reasons to yourself that are not convincing to yourself but you go with it.

You are making excuses.  

There is no such thing as reasoning badly when the truth is available and present.

Rather, you are conversing reason for your own continued suffering.

I'm saying people who want to justify following what they are born into, will have to under go a hard process of justifying a false belief and delusion to themselves. So it's not necessarily easy like you stated.
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#54
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 8:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm saying people who want to justify following what they are born into, will have to under go a hard process of justifying a false belief and delusion to themselves. So it's not necessarily easy like you stated.

I hated to bring this up, but have you not waffled through belief and non-belief?

I find it difficult that one who does such a thing is unaware of the truth of what I am speaking.
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#55
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 8:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm saying people who want to justify following what they are born into, will have to under go a hard process of justifying a false belief and delusion to themselves. So it's not necessarily easy like you stated.

Or they don't do the justifying part at all. Personally I wonder how anyone not being disconnected from the world and all that we know about it, can believe in any scripture. It seems to be very hard and to require a lot of credulity to justify a god that cropped up virtually five minutes before midnight.
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#56
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 9:01 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 6, 2016 at 8:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm saying people who want to justify following what they are born into, will have to under go a hard process of justifying a false belief and delusion to themselves. So it's not necessarily easy like you stated.

Or they don't do the justifying part at all. Personally I wonder how anyone not being disconnected from the world and all that we know about it, can believe in any scripture. 

I once disbelieved in all scriptures. So I know how you feel about this.
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#57
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 8:35 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote:
(January 6, 2016 at 8:09 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Very true. So then the real question is, why do religious people believe their religion is true? That's a long answer.

Your particular religion? Likely because either your parents were Catholic or because you've been raised around Catholic people.

There was a very particular reason why I, being born in mostly soft-Protestant UK, was also raised Catholic. That reason is because my grandparents came from the mostly Catholic Mediterranean where they were raised Catholic. It's not really any deeper than that. You inherit a particular faith from your family and, unless you decide to leave it, you get comfortable in it.

That is the reason why I was Catholic when I was 10, but the reason I am Catholic now is much deeper than that.
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#58
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That is the reason why I was Catholic when I was 10, but the reason I am Catholic now is much deeper than that.

Not buying it.
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#59
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 9:32 pm)Kitan Wrote:
(January 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That is the reason why I was Catholic when I was 10, but the reason I am Catholic now is much deeper than that.

Not buying it.

I realize that. 

Reading though these posts and just being here on AF in general has shown me that many of you cannot fathom anyone else searching for truth yet coming to a different conclusion than yourselves. So you assume the person never really searched for truth and just believe what they do for petty, simplistic reasons.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#60
RE: Why people are religious
(January 6, 2016 at 9:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Reading though these posts and just being here on AF in general has shown me that many of you cannot fathom anyone else searching for truth yet coming to a different conclusion than yourselves. So you assume the person never really searched for truth and just believe what they do for petty, simplistic reasons.

I would not use the terms petty or simplistic.
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