Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Angrboda]

Whether you agree with his hypothesis or not, the points he lists constitute evidence that consciousness is in the brain.

Idiot.  
I never said that the consciousness is or is not in the brain.
I rather said that the consciousness is not the mind or the brain.
That doesn't mean that they all can be located in the same place
like a driver that is located inside a car so the car thanks to all of them can move.
Comprende?      

Now you're just making up bullshit objections to avoid having to answer the substance of the matter. The point is that his contention that consciousness is a part of the mind or brain has equal support from the facts he lists as your contention that it is not has. So now you have seen evidence that consciousness is part of the brain and any further blathering about "where's the evidence" on your part is simple dishonesty. Have a nice day.

[Cyberman]

Come on people, help little Rik out. Lets see some good analogies to help our friend out of his backward beliefs.

I tried earlier and it flew over his pointy head by a country mile.

[Little Rik]

A quick question little prik, you claim atoms have consciousness.  My PC is made up of lots and lots of atoms.
Loads of 'em.
Is my PC sentient?

1) Despite your total and ingrain stupidity nevertheless the question has some value.
Consciousness is everywhere even within a murder so it just doesn't mean that because there is consciousness this consciousness has got to be sentient.
2) Consciousness vary in intensity.
In a stone this consciousness is in a latent or dormant stage so if we would have to give a number
from 0 to 10 we could say that consciousness in a stone is next to zero while in a plant can be 1 or 2
in an animal 2 to 3 in a human being 3 to 4 and in the supreme consciousness (God) 10.

Atoms are at the bottom of the conscious scale so to speak.
They have a long long way to go before they take a more developed form of life as plants so it doesn't mean that a huge quantity of atoms as in your PC will give out such a sentient feeling but again it all depend on many other factors.  

[Homeless Nutter]

[...]Consciousness is everywhere even within a murder

so it just doesn't mean that because there is consciousness this consciousness has got to be sentient.[...]

...

He's so delightfully retarded...

[Little Rik]

Idiot.  
I never said that the consciousness is or is not in the brain.
I rather said that the consciousness is not the mind or the brain.
That doesn't mean that they all can be located in the same place
like a driver that is located inside a car so the car thanks to all of them can move.
Comprende?      

Now you're just making up bullshit objections to avoid having to answer the substance of the matter.  The point is that his contention that consciousness is a part of the mind or brain has equal support from the facts he lists as your contention that it is not has.  So now you have seen evidence that consciousness is part of the brain and any further blathering about "where's the evidence" on your part is simple dishonesty.  Have a nice day.

The concept that we are one with the body-mind 100% is a typical atheist dogma.
Suppose you are stuck inside a car and you have only the option to carry on from point A to point B (from birth to death).
We can well say that you are part of that body but at the same time you are not that body.
It just happen that the master of all life in the universe put you in that situation and you have no option but carry on unless you commit suicide.
That doesn't mean that you are the vehicle therefore doesn't mean that because your consciousness is
stuck in that body-mind you are that body-mind.
This i suppose is a philosophical concept a bit too difficult for you to understand but what can i do.
It is up to you to wake up and grow up so you can understand this simple concept.
Have a good day anyway.  

[The Grand Nudger]

Your mind-body car needs a check Rik.  It's malfunctioning. I wonder whether it's metric or standard?

[Brian37]

A quick question little prik, you claim atoms have consciousness.  My PC is made up of lots and lots of atoms.
Loads of 'em.
Is my PC sentient?

1) Despite your total and ingrain stupidity nevertheless the question has some value.
Consciousness is everywhere even within a murder so it just doesn't mean that because there is consciousness this consciousness has got to be sentient.
2) Consciousness vary in intensity.
In a stone this consciousness is in a latent or dormant stage so if we would have to give a number
from 0 to 10 we could say that consciousness in a stone is next to zero while in a plant can be 1 or 2
in an animal 2 to 3 in a human being 3 to 4 and in the supreme consciousness (God) 10.

Atoms are at the bottom of the conscious scale so to speak.
They have a long long way to go before they take a more developed form of life as plants so it doesn't mean that a huge quantity of atoms as in your PC will give out such a sentient feeling but again it all depend on many other factors.  

Bullshit........ Atoms do not think individually, PERIOD, they are a result of motion and attraction. It is bullshit to treat a single atom as if it were a fully intact biological brain. That is just flat out bullshit. Consciousness is an emergent property not a starting point. Atoms have to form certain molecules to form an organ that thinks.

AI is computing it is not biological like a living thing. In both cases if you smash a computer or smash a living thing with a brain, the broken structures even at a molecular level, will not function as the in tact thing.

Si fi woo is just as stupid as old sky wizard claims. Computers calculate and we can get them to "think", and even interact with us, yes. But treating a atom, or mere wave function as if it were in tact is absurd in both cases..

Assuming the wave function or atom can behave as an in tact object is like assuming if you simply pump gas out of the nozzle it will magically become the entire car. The structures of both artificial computers and in tact thinking life BOTH have specific patterns that will not function when broken up.

[Crossless2.0]

Now you're just making up bullshit objections to avoid having to answer the substance of the matter.  The point is that his contention that consciousness is a part of the mind or brain has equal support from the facts he lists as your contention that it is not has.  So now you have seen evidence that consciousness is part of the brain and any further blathering about "where's the evidence" on your part is simple dishonesty.  Have a nice day.

The concept that we are one with the body-mind 100% is a typical atheist dogma.
Suppose you are stuck inside a car and you have only the option to carry on from point A to point B (from birth to death).
We can well say that you are part of that body but at the same time you are not that body.
It just happen that the master of all life in the universe put you in that situation and you have no option but carry on unless you commit suicide.
That doesn't mean that you are the vehicle therefore doesn't mean that because your consciousness is
stuck in that body-mind you are that body-mind.
This i suppose is a philosophical concept a bit too difficult for you to understand but what can i do.
It is up to you to wake up and grow up so you can understand this simple concept.
Have a good day anyway.  

My take away from your brain dropping:

1) After all your time here, you still don't understand what "atheist" and "dogma" mean.

2) You continue to utterly misunderstand ideas like "burden of evidence" or "parsimony".

3) You couldn't come up with an apt analogy if your life depended on it.

4) It's possible that you really are as stupid as I suspect in my less generous moods.

[Little Rik]

The concept that we are one with the body-mind 100% is a typical atheist dogma.
Suppose you are stuck inside a car and you have only the option to carry on from point A to point B (from birth to death).
We can well say that you are part of that body but at the same time you are not that body.
It just happen that the master of all life in the universe put you in that situation and you have no option but carry on unless you commit suicide.
That doesn't mean that you are the vehicle therefore doesn't mean that because your consciousness is
stuck in that body-mind you are that body-mind.
This i suppose is a philosophical concept a bit too difficult for you to understand but what can i do.
It is up to you to wake up and grow up so you can understand this simple concept.
Have a good day anyway.  

My take away from your brain dropping:

1) After all your time here, you still don't understand what "atheist" and "dogma" mean.

2) You continue to utterly misunderstand ideas like "burden of evidence" or "parsimony".

3) You couldn't come up with an apt analogy if your life depended on it.

4) It's possible that you really are as stupid as I suspect in my less generous moods.

Eh, i got a list long a mile about atheist dogmas or statements lacking solid evidence sold as evidence
so you should really look in the mirror before you point the finger on other people.  

[Little Rik]

1) Despite your total and ingrain stupidity nevertheless the question has some value.
Consciousness is everywhere even within a murder so it just doesn't mean that because there is consciousness this consciousness has got to be sentient.
2) Consciousness vary in intensity.
In a stone this consciousness is in a latent or dormant stage so if we would have to give a number
from 0 to 10 we could say that consciousness in a stone is next to zero while in a plant can be 1 or 2
in an animal 2 to 3 in a human being 3 to 4 and in the supreme consciousness (God) 10.

Atoms are at the bottom of the conscious scale so to speak.
They have a long long way to go before they take a more developed form of life as plants so it doesn't mean that a huge quantity of atoms as in your PC will give out such a sentient feeling but again it all depend on many other factors.  

Bullshit........ Atoms do not think individually, PERIOD, they are a result of motion and attraction. It is bullshit to treat a single atom as if it were a fully intact biological brain. That is just flat out bullshit. Consciousness is an emergent property not a starting point. Atoms have to form certain molecules to form an organ that thinks.

AI is computing it is not biological like a living thing. In both cases if you smash a computer or smash a living thing with a brain, the broken structures even at a molecular level, will not function as the in tact thing.

Si fi woo is just as stupid as old sky wizard claims. Computers calculate and we can get them to "think", and even interact with us, yes. But treating a atom, or mere wave function as if it were in tact is absurd in both cases..

Assuming the wave function or atom can behave as an in tact object is like assuming if you simply pump gas out of the nozzle it will magically become the entire car. The structures of both artificial computers and in tact thinking life BOTH have specific patterns that will not function when broken up.

You are running too fast with your fantasy Brian.

1) I never said that atoms have a brain capable to think.
You blame that on me.
I instead said that atoms like everything have consciousness.
Brain and mind come at a later stage when their consciousness will expand into animal life.
In the meantime with that small amount of consciousness atoms have no other way but to follow mother nature instinct which is to merge into bigger form of consciousness but i stop here as your mental capability would not understand much.

2) Here we go again with this crap that ......Consciousness is an emergent property not a starting point.....
Emergent from where Brian?
From the brain?
And where is the evidence then?
To me make more sense that consciousness if emerge emerge from a seed so has always been there.
It just wake up to sprout and take the form of the one who put the seed there in the first place but please
don't take this concept seriously or you could really stop being an atheist.  

Have a good day.