If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?

[Expired]

Do you realise how many great experiences you are missing out on? life is before death, try and remember that.

What u fail to realize is that the life of Paradise in an innumerable amount of times better than the best life here in this world. Allah promises to us in Paradise we shall have all that we desire for all eternity, and Allah never fails in His promise. So let's say ur the most blessed person in the world. U have all the wealth, women, fame, everything u could possibly want. But u end up dying when ur 100 years old, an age when u really can't enjoy it anymore if u were still alive. Aside from that u live in a world where evil, hatred,disease, death, jealousy and other ills take place as well. U didn't live the believing life So once u die, which will happen, u will be punished for eternity in the next life. Or u believe and do righteous deeds in this life, for 100 years that u live, and when u go to the next life u are forgiven for all ur sins and are granted the gift of Paradise. The beauty of it is such that the gravel are diamonds, pearls and precious gems. Every tree in Paradise has trunks and lImbs of solid gold. U will be clothed in the finest silk robes and bracelets and rings of pure gold, silver and gemstones. U will be served by immortal youths the while u recline on thrones encrusted with gold and precious jewels. Males shall have beautiful female companions with rounded swelling breasts, dynamic figures and beautiful lustrous eyes, where females shall have handsome male companions with alluring builds who both(female and males)have scents and fragrances of musk and saffron, and are commanded by Allah to do whatever the denizens of Paradise request of them. U will be served drinks of the finest wines that don't intoxicate, milk that doesn't spoil, honey sweet and pleasurable and refreshing water all that come from rivers in Paradise. Fruits of every kind grow in pairs on the trees that reach out and hand themselves to u. U will eat the finest meats and flesh of fowls, and drink from goblets of crystal and gold. U will have bodies that do not excrete waste and have the strength and endurance of 100 men. All will be 33 years of age and will never grow old nor die. A world where no evil exists, nor sickness nor disease. Mansions built of bricks of gold and silver so large in size it would take a fast horse 70 years to reach from end to the other. perfect temperature, scenery, and the absolute greatest gift of all aside from all I mentioned and so much more, we will be able to actually visualize Allah our creator, and He will better and more pleasing than anything we have ever seen. Where the people doomed to Hell, the worst punishment, than all of pain and suffering and burning will be they will not have the privilege of seeing their creator. So imagine for Paradise Allah telling u "Go my servant, have whatever u want and enjoy yourself" So would u sacrifice and be patient and live ur life correctly for a temporary time to have whatever u desire for all eternity? That's what u should think about

Why should I sacrifice my freedom for some bullshit promise?
I like alcohol and bacon sandwiches toooo much.

[Sheed1980]

Absolutely. It doesn't matter what corner of the world we come from. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh was sent by Allah as the messenger for all mankind. So if Allah chooses to guide me whether I'm black, white or candy apple red, and whatever nation and religious background i come from, I have received the same message. What u should do before u ask questions like that is Google and research how many Muslims live in Peru or are from Peruvian ascent. U might be surprised

Ah, but you see, there are millions of people who have never heard of the old charlatan Mo.  If you lived in deepest, darkest Peru, you may never have heard of him.

Funny how God cares so much about his people that so many don't have a clue who he is, or that it is definitely not OK to eat pork, don't you think?

Well ur wrong about that as well. Allah is Most fair to His servants. There won't be one single person that stands b4 Him in judgment that will not have heard of Him or the prophet He sent to them. everyone has heard of God and will before they die. This way they won't be able to say "I never heard of you before". So will everyone have chances in their lifetime to accept God, of course. But will they accept Him is the big question

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What u fail to realize is that the life of Paradise in an innumerable amount of times better than the best life here in this world. Allah promises to us in Paradise we shall have all that we desire for all eternity, and Allah never fails in His promise. So let's say ur the most blessed person in the world. U have all the wealth, women, fame, everything u could possibly want. But u end up dying when ur 100 years old, an age when u really can't enjoy it anymore if u were still alive. Aside from that u live in a world where evil, hatred,disease, death, jealousy and other ills take place as well. U didn't live the believing life So once u die, which will happen, u will be punished for eternity in the next life. Or u believe and do righteous deeds in this life, for 100 years that u live, and when u go to the next life u are forgiven for all ur sins and are granted the gift of Paradise. The beauty of it is such that the gravel are diamonds, pearls and precious gems. Every tree in Paradise has trunks and lImbs of solid gold. U will be clothed in the finest silk robes and bracelets and rings of pure gold, silver and gemstones. U will be served by immortal youths the while u recline on thrones encrusted with gold and precious jewels. Males shall have beautiful female companions with rounded swelling breasts, dynamic figures and beautiful lustrous eyes, where females shall have handsome male companions with alluring builds who both(female and males)have scents and fragrances of musk and saffron, and are commanded by Allah to do whatever the denizens of Paradise request of them. U will be served drinks of the finest wines that don't intoxicate, milk that doesn't spoil, honey sweet and pleasurable and refreshing water all that come from rivers in Paradise. Fruits of every kind grow in pairs on the trees that reach out and hand themselves to u. U will eat the finest meats and flesh of fowls, and drink from goblets of crystal and gold. U will have bodies that do not excrete waste and have the strength and endurance of 100 men. All will be 33 years of age and will never grow old nor die. A world where no evil exists, nor sickness nor disease. Mansions built of bricks of gold and silver so large in size it would take a fast horse 70 years to reach from end to the other. perfect temperature, scenery, and the absolute greatest gift of all aside from all I mentioned and so much more, we will be able to actually visualize Allah our creator, and He will better and more pleasing than anything we have ever seen. Where the people doomed to Hell, the worst punishment, than all of pain and suffering and burning will be they will not have the privilege of seeing their creator. So imagine for Paradise Allah telling u "Go my servant, have whatever u want and enjoy yourself" So would u sacrifice and be patient and live ur life correctly for a temporary time to have whatever u desire for all eternity? That's what u should think about

Why should I sacrifice my freedom for some bullshit promise?
I like alcohol and bacon sandwiches toooo much.

This is why Allah tells us in the Qur'an. 53:29-30. 29)Therefore shun those who turn away from our message and only desire the life of this world. 30)that is their attainment of knowledge. Indeed your Lord knows best those who stray from His path and He knows best those who receive guidance.

[Brian37]

Ah, but you see, there are millions of people who have never heard of the old charlatan Mo.  If you lived in deepest, darkest Peru, you may never have heard of him.

Funny how God cares so much about his people that so many don't have a clue who he is, or that it is definitely not OK to eat pork, don't you think?

Well ur wrong about that as well. Allah is Most fair to His servants. There won't be one single person that stands b4 Him in judgment that will not have heard of Him or the prophet He sent to them. everyone has heard of God and will before they die. This way they won't be able to say "I never heard of you before". So will everyone have chances in their lifetime to accept God, of course. But will they accept Him is the big question

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Why should I sacrifice my freedom for some bullshit promise?
I like alcohol and bacon sandwiches toooo much.

This is why Allah tells us in the Qur'an. 53:29-30. 29)Therefore shun those who turn away from our message and only desire the life of this world. 30)that is their attainment of knowledge. Indeed your Lord knows best those who stray from His path and He knows best those who receive guidance.

Quoting a book to prove a book is called circular reasoning. 

"The Koran says so the Koran is true"
"The Bible says so the Bible is true"
"The Jewish Torah and Talmud say, so they are true"
"The Hindu Vedas say so they are true"
"The Buddha says so Buddhism is true"

And here is a video for all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZACBEW_B8s

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What u fail to realize is that the life of Paradise in an innumerable amount of times better than the best life here in this world. Allah promises to us in Paradise we shall have all that we desire for all eternity, and Allah never fails in His promise. So let's say ur the most blessed person in the world. U have all the wealth, women, fame, everything u could possibly want. But u end up dying when ur 100 years old, an age when u really can't enjoy it anymore if u were still alive. Aside from that u live in a world where evil, hatred,disease, death, jealousy and other ills take place as well. U didn't live the believing life So once u die, which will happen, u will be punished for eternity in the next life. Or u believe and do righteous deeds in this life, for 100 years that u live, and when u go to the next life u are forgiven for all ur sins and are granted the gift of Paradise. The beauty of it is such that the gravel are diamonds, pearls and precious gems. Every tree in Paradise has trunks and lImbs of solid gold. U will be clothed in the finest silk robes and bracelets and rings of pure gold, silver and gemstones. U will be served by immortal youths the while u recline on thrones encrusted with gold and precious jewels. Males shall have beautiful female companions with rounded swelling breasts, dynamic figures and beautiful lustrous eyes, where females shall have handsome male companions with alluring builds who both(female and males)have scents and fragrances of musk and saffron, and are commanded by Allah to do whatever the denizens of Paradise request of them. U will be served drinks of the finest wines that don't intoxicate, milk that doesn't spoil, honey sweet and pleasurable and refreshing water all that come from rivers in Paradise. Fruits of every kind grow in pairs on the trees that reach out and hand themselves to u. U will eat the finest meats and flesh of fowls, and drink from goblets of crystal and gold. U will have bodies that do not excrete waste and have the strength and endurance of 100 men. All will be 33 years of age and will never grow old nor die. A world where no evil exists, nor sickness nor disease. Mansions built of bricks of gold and silver so large in size it would take a fast horse 70 years to reach from end to the other. perfect temperature, scenery, and the absolute greatest gift of all aside from all I mentioned and so much more, we will be able to actually visualize Allah our creator, and He will better and more pleasing than anything we have ever seen. Where the people doomed to Hell, the worst punishment, than all of pain and suffering and burning will be they will not have the privilege of seeing their creator. So imagine for Paradise Allah telling u "Go my servant, have whatever u want and enjoy yourself" So would u sacrifice and be patient and live ur life correctly for a temporary time to have whatever u desire for all eternity? That's what u should think about

Why should I sacrifice my freedom for some bullshit promise?
I like alcohol and bacon sandwiches toooo much.

Mmmm, beer and bacon. I'll be having some bacon later.

[Sheed1980]

Well ur wrong about that as well. Allah is Most fair to His servants. There won't be one single person that stands b4 Him in judgment that will not have heard of Him or the prophet He sent to them. everyone has heard of God and will before they die. This way they won't be able to say "I never heard of you before". So will everyone have chances in their lifetime to accept God, of course. But will they accept Him is the big question

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This is why Allah tells us in the Qur'an. 53:29-30. 29)Therefore shun those who turn away from our message and only desire the life of this world. 30)that is their attainment of knowledge. Indeed your Lord knows best those who stray from His path and He knows best those who receive guidance.

Quoting a book to prove a book is called circular reasoning. 

"The Koran says so the Koran is true"
"The Bible says so the Bible is true"
"The Jewish Torah and Talmud say, so they are true"
"The Hindu Vedas say so they are true"
"The Buddha says so Buddhism is true"

And here is a video for all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZACBEW_B8s

Well of course I believe the Qur'an is the true word of Allah. But if u read the message I responded to the statement that person made about liking bacon and alcohol too much in this life than to have all they want in the next life so I was using the Qur'an as proof of what Allah says about people like that, which obviously is a fact, because that person just said they'd rather have it in this life. Proving that Allah knows exactly what He is talking about

[Expired]

Quoting a book to prove a book is called circular reasoning. 

"The Koran says so the Koran is true"
"The Bible says so the Bible is true"
"The Jewish Torah and Talmud say, so they are true"
"The Hindu Vedas say so they are true"
"The Buddha says so Buddhism is true"

And here is a video for all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZACBEW_B8s

Well of course I believe the Qur'an is the true word of Allah. But if u read the message I responded to the statement that person made about liking bacon and alcohol too much in this life than to have all they want in the next life so I was using the Qur'an as proof of what Allah says about people like that, which obviously is a fact, because that person just said they'd rather have it in this life. Proving that Allah knows exactly what He is talking about

I also mentioned freedom as well as beer and bacon, freedom of speech and freedom of thought are two examples of experiences that a lot of religious people miss out on in this life.


You were not born with your beliefs, so what gave the people who filled your head with this nonsense the right to do so?

This is not a dress rehearsal, so stop living your life trying to please some invisible dictator, think of how many hours you must have wasted over the years worshipping, spend that time doing something worthwhile.

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Well ur wrong about that as well. Allah is Most fair to His servants. There won't be one single person that stands b4 Him in judgment that will not have heard of Him or the prophet He sent to them. everyone has heard of God and will before they die. This way they won't be able to say "I never heard of you before". So will everyone have chances in their lifetime to accept God, of course. But will they accept Him is the big question

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This is why Allah tells us in the Qur'an. 53:29-30. 29)Therefore shun those who turn away from our message and only desire the life of this world. 30)that is their attainment of knowledge. Indeed your Lord knows best those who stray from His path and He knows best those who receive guidance.

Quoting a book to prove a book is called circular reasoning. 

"The Koran says so the Koran is true"
"The Bible says so the Bible is true"
"The Jewish Torah and Talmud say, so they are true"
"The Hindu Vedas say so they are true"
"The Buddha says so Buddhism is true"

And here is a video for all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZACBEW_B8s

A great tune.

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Why should I sacrifice my freedom for some bullshit promise?
I like alcohol and bacon sandwiches toooo much.

Mmmm, beer and bacon. I'll be having some bacon later.

HP or Daddies sauce?

[Sheed1980]

Well of course I believe the Qur'an is the true word of Allah. But if u read the message I responded to the statement that person made about liking bacon and alcohol too much in this life than to have all they want in the next life so I was using the Qur'an as proof of what Allah says about people like that, which obviously is a fact, because that person just said they'd rather have it in this life. Proving that Allah knows exactly what He is talking about

I also mentioned freedom as well as beer and bacon, freedom of speech and freedom of thought are two examples of experiences that a lot of religious people miss out on in this life.


You were not born with your beliefs, so what gave the people who filled your head with this nonsense the right to do so?

This is not a dress rehearsal, so stop living your life trying to please some invisible dictator, think of how many hours you must have wasted over the years worshipping, spend that time doing something worthwhile.

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Quoting a book to prove a book is called circular reasoning. 

"The Koran says so the Koran is true"
"The Bible says so the Bible is true"
"The Jewish Torah and Talmud say, so they are true"
"The Hindu Vedas say so they are true"
"The Buddha says so Buddhism is true"

And here is a video for all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZACBEW_B8s

A great tune.

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Mmmm, beer and bacon. I'll be having some bacon later.

HP or Daddies sauce?

What u need to understand is Allah guides whom He wills and leaves to stray whom He wills. Those who He chooses to guide none can lead astray and those whom He leaves to stray none can guide. Now He gives us all free will to do as we please. All Muslims sin just as all other people sin. Allah lets us know that He punishes for sins so we dont do them out of fear of our Lord. He also tells us He accepts repentance and forgives again and again. So when we err and sin He is ready to accept our repentance, and forgive us. But we have to seek His forgiveness. Unlike a lot of Christians who believe prophet Jesus pbuh as God died for their sins so they're automatically saved. Allah tells us every soul is responsible for his own deeds and that's what we will be judged on by Him. So we as Muslims know we have a LORD that punishes for sins but He also being The Most Merciful, He forgives them again and again so we seek His forgiveness and repent to Him out of fear and hope.

[robvalue]

He's never going to forgive me for what I've done. I'm beyond hope.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Do you realise how many great experiences you are missing out on? life is before death, try and remember that.

What u fail to realize is that the life of Paradise in an innumerable amount of times better than the best life here in this world. Allah promises to us in Paradise we shall have all that we desire for all eternity, and Allah never fails in His promise. So let's say ur the most blessed person in the world. U have all the wealth, women, fame, everything u could possibly want. But u end up dying when ur 100 years old, an age when u really can't enjoy it anymore if u were still alive. Aside from that u live in a world where evil, hatred,disease, death, jealousy and other ills take place as well. U didn't live the believing life So once u die, which will happen, u will be punished for eternity in the next life. Or u believe and do righteous deeds in this life, for 100 years that u live, and when u go to the next life u are forgiven for all ur sins and are granted the gift of Paradise. The beauty of it is such that the gravel are diamonds, pearls and precious gems. Every tree in Paradise has trunks and lImbs of solid gold. U will be clothed in the finest silk robes and bracelets and rings of pure gold, silver and gemstones. U will be served by immortal youths the while u recline on thrones encrusted with gold and precious jewels. Males shall have beautiful female companions with rounded swelling breasts, dynamic figures and beautiful lustrous eyes, where females shall have handsome male companions with alluring builds who both(female and males)have scents and fragrances of musk and saffron, and are commanded by Allah to do whatever the denizens of Paradise request of them. U will be served drinks of the finest wines that don't intoxicate, milk that doesn't spoil, honey sweet and pleasurable and refreshing water all that come from rivers in Paradise. Fruits of every kind grow in pairs on the trees that reach out and hand themselves to u. U will eat the finest meats and flesh of fowls, and drink from goblets of crystal and gold. U will have bodies that do not excrete waste and have the strength and endurance of 100 men. All will be 33 years of age and will never grow old nor die. A world where no evil exists, nor sickness nor disease. Mansions built of bricks of gold and silver so large in size it would take a fast horse 70 years to reach from end to the other. perfect temperature, scenery, and the absolute greatest gift of all aside from all I mentioned and so much more, we will be able to actually visualize Allah our creator, and He will better and more pleasing than anything we have ever seen. Where the people doomed to Hell, the worst punishment, than all of pain and suffering and burning will be they will not have the privilege of seeing their creator. So imagine for Paradise Allah telling u "Go my servant, have whatever u want and enjoy yourself" So would u sacrifice and be patient and live ur life correctly for a temporary time to have whatever u desire for all eternity? That's what u should think about

What's up with those gold and silver mansions?  The abodes are supposed to be pearls.

[ReptilianPeon]

He's never going to forgive me for what I've done. I'm beyond hope.

So you did Shirk? Pretty sure Allah forgives even killing another human, strangely. I mean, you can take away the free will of others humans and Allah will still let you into heaven 'if you play your cards right', as they say. Personally,i don't see why killers should get into heaven, but you know, Allah loves you.