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Another fake Catholic miracle.
#21
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.

And exactly how would "The church" know if it was a miracle?

You can google the process they go through to approve a miracle, if you'd like.
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#22
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm)Brakeman Wrote: And exactly how would "The church" know if it was a miracle?

You can google the process they go through to approve a miracle, if you'd like.

It doesn't matter to me if they stir the bullshit pot clockwise or counterclockwise, it's still bullshit. Nothing in our real word gives information about any imaginary world. There is no evidence of magic gods and no evidence of any breaking of the laws of physics by any middle eastern goat herders or their story followers.
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#23
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 10:33 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You can google the process they go through to approve a miracle, if you'd like.

It doesn't matter to me if they stir the bullshit pot clockwise or counterclockwise, it's still bullshit. Nothing in our real word gives information about any imaginary world. There is no evidence of magic gods and no evidence of any breaking of the laws of physics by any middle eastern goat herders or their story followers.

Well, I only told you that because you asked me. If you don't care to know, then I don't see why you asked me.  Undecided
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#24
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
So i if i pray to the flying spaghetti monster i want the ability to fly and i got the
ability to fly guess how many religious people would be converting to FSM.
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#25
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You can google the process they go through to approve a miracle, if you'd like.

Yeah - it's utter bullsh*t. They say whatever they want, because it's not like their dumb flock will check - or even would be able to, if they wanted. And if skeptics outside the church discover that a "miracle" was a fraud (like the ones used in the beatification process of that "Mother" Teresa c*nt), or otherwise misrepresented - the deluded morons, desperate for magic, will simply ignore that information, because they want to believe in Jeezles and they don't give two f*cks about truth.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#26
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
*Reads title*

Aren't they all fake?
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#27
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 10:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: So i if i pray to the flying spaghetti monster i want the ability to fly and i got the
ability to fly guess how many religious people would be converting to FSM.

You would but FSM knows you'd be terrible at the landing.

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#28
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm)Brakeman Wrote: And exactly how would "The church" know if it was a miracle?

You can google the process they go through to approve a miracle, if you'd like.

Which isn't exactly scientific, so not really a reliable process and, rationally speaking, quite unnecessary given that many Catholic would still believe anyway ...

The main purpose for such a process is to make the whole thing look legit ...
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#29
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 7, 2016 at 2:43 am)Irrational Wrote: [...]The main purpose for such a process is to make the whole thing look legit ...

Also - to be able to avoid responsibility, for some locally manufactured "miracles", which might be too easy to debunk and therefore putting the whole enterprise at risk.

And to stop people unaffiliated with the church, from making money off of private "miracle" businesses based on the church's mythology.

Basically, it's a combination of quality control and intellectual property licensing scheme for fraud.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#30
RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
(February 6, 2016 at 11:42 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You can google the process they go through to approve a miracle, if you'd like.

Yeah - it's utter bullsh*t. They say whatever they want, because it's not like their dumb flock will check - or even would be able to, if they wanted. And if skeptics outside the church discover that a "miracle" was a fraud (like the ones used in the beatification process of that "Mother" Teresa c*nt), or otherwise misrepresented - the deluded morons, desperate for magic, will simply ignore that information, because they want to believe in Jeezles and they don't give two f*cks about truth.

It's worse than that; if you read the link that I posted, it's just downright forgery.  Once the Church has committed, they are in at all costs, threats, bribery, exhortation.  With Mother Teresa, it's written all over the walls, "Unless you do such and such, you'll be like them, a beggar..."  What ignorant Indian won't lie?  It's no different than the exhortation which sometimes plagues corporate America, and why some executives in some companies will continue to lie and lie and lie.
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