Why the USA is a disgrace

[Excited Penguin]

The world isn't just USA on the one side and some hellish country in the middle east ripe with violence and poverty on the other.

[Gawdzilla]

And SS officially starts at 65, but you can start at 62 if you want to take a hit in the funds. I figure I won't live long enough for the penalty to have a net effect, so I got some extra money for three additional year.   And my wives have always worked, so we're not doing bad.

And yet my aunt, having lived and worked in New Yersey for all her adult life - as a high school teacher - moved to Canada after retirement. Because of the health system. I believe it had something to do with the insurance determining which doctor you're allowed to see and what hospitals to go in case of emergency.

I have the VA, so I get free health care. Your aunt made a good move, I think, medical costs are absurd in this country.

[Gawdzilla]

The world isn't just USA on the one side and some hellish country in the middle east ripe with violence and poverty on the other.

Or vice versa, of course. I've been to very awesome and very dangerous places in the US, at least once in the same day.

[Joods]

The world isn't just USA on the one side and some hellish country in the middle east ripe with violence and poverty on the other.

I didn't say that it was. But I would still rather live here than the very real places I mentioned.

[Excited Penguin]

The world isn't just USA on the one side and some hellish country in the middle east ripe with violence and poverty on the other.

I didn't say that it was. But I would still rather live here than the very real places I mentioned.

Anyone would. That doesn't say much about America, though. There's a lot of places like America in that regard.  You sound like you think America is somehow special in that. Well, guess what, it's not.

[Excited Penguin]

You could say it's better equipped to protect you as a citizen, given its military superiority, I think. But I don't know much about that side of things, so I'm not going to argue against that point in any way.

[Edwardo Piet]

Judi was speaking about the USA, and saying how she would prefer to live there than some other countries, that doesn't imply at all what you suggested it implies, EP.

[Joods]

I didn't say that it was. But I would still rather live here than the very real places I mentioned.

Anyone would. That doesn't say much about America, though. There's a lot of places like America in that regard.  You sound like you think America is somehow special in that. Well, guess what, it's not.

As usual, you take things someone says, way out of context because you read far more into it than necessary.

[Excited Penguin]

Judi was speaking about the USA, and saying how she would prefer to live there than some other countries, that doesn't imply at all what you suggested it implies, EP.

To me it does. I don't see why she would point out such an obvious thing otherwise. No one argued that the USA isn't safer than the countries she's talking about. No one made that argument at all. So who or against what was she arguing exactly?

We call that a straw man, I'm pretty sure.

[Excited Penguin]

Anyone would. That doesn't say much about America, though. There's a lot of places like America in that regard.  You sound like you think America is somehow special in that. Well, guess what, it's not.

As usual, you take things someone says, way out of context because you read far more into it than necessary.

Stop making straw man arguments then.