Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Nay_Sayer]

 You need only to open your heart and mind, No consumption needed.
Yogurt not yoga
RAmen.

No consumption needed?  
So all the promises from your guru are only to be seen but not touched?  
It must be a little be difficult to find new converts in your religion.  
Isn't it?  

Oh little doubting ricky ticky

Not at all, You can find FSM in any way you please, Sometimes he comes to you and sometimes you must seek him.

Pastafarianism is the fastest growing pasta based religion on the planet.
Not guru, One true god.

Yogurt not yoga.

RAmen

[Little Rik]

No consumption needed?  
So all the promises from your guru are only to be seen but not touched?  
It must be a little be difficult to find new converts in your religion.  
Isn't it?  

Oh little doubting ricky ticky

Not at all, You can find FSM in any way you please, Sometimes he comes to you and sometimes you must seek him.
Pastafarianism is the fastest growing pasta based religion on the planet.
Not guru, One true god.
Yogurt not yoga.
RAmen

Gee, why you didn't tell me before mate?  
Now i know what you talking about.  
You mean that guy that i look after in the mental unit that go around with a colander on the head.
My boss told me to put him in a straight jacket but to me it doesn't seem that bad.
Although i am a bit worry at times that with that colander on the head he may not see the wall
in front of him.  
Well well, now that you told me that he is your friend i will look after him a bit better.  
No worry mate.  

[Little Rik]

How the hell can consciousness be a product of the brain when in fact it is the consciousness that
decide to start any mental or physical action?

What is your source for that 'fact'?

All thoughts/actions are proceeded by bio-chemical/neuron activity.  About 500ms.  I can source that.

That is a silly statement.
Today physical science still doesn't have a clue who initiated the thought-action.
They guess and guess and guess again and again but no, nothing solid.
They haven't got a clue for the simple reason that they don't know how the consciousness works.
There is only one consciousness but like an iceberg part is above and part is below our awareness.
The part that is below is alive and well.
The only problem is that our awareness can't get it.
Can't get it until we manage to bring it up.
Up to our awareness.
In yoga the full control of our awareness equal to be aware that we are God.
It takes long long time to bring that awareness up and make it ours but that is the goal of life.
But let us not divert from the issue.

Your bio-chemical/neuron activity that suppose to precede the though-action is not the one who initiated the thought-action.
They too are preceded by the consciousness wish to initiate the thought-action.
The brain act as a source of energy and a storage of information so yes it will give your  bio-chemical/neuron activity but only after the consciousness decide to go ahead with the thought-action.
How do i know that?
Because yoga works in that context.
To bring the hidden and below consciousness above you got to shut your senses and the brain activity as much as you can otherwise you can not concentrate therefore it means that the consciousness is the starter not the brain or the brain activities.  

[Little Rik]

Whoah, Lordy.  Look at all them assertions!

Guess I'm still in "the lumber stage" since I don't see it that way.  

And you're still wrong about evolution applying to individuals.  That you can't get that simple point speaks volumes about you.

Yog.  
Don't you think is about time to open your eyes and all your senses?  
Just look at people around.
There are small people, there are big people.
There are rich people there are poor people.
There are people who are healthy and people who are sick.
There are people who are very smart while other people pick up cig. butts outside the pub.
This is called individuality girl.
People choose their own way in their free will.
Lower form of consciousness follow mainly the instinct but not 100%.
Even them have a bit of free will.
You can see that in the climber plants and you can see also in animals
so everything and everybody got individuality and this individuality make us different one another
that is why evolution of the species is bullshit.  

[Little Rik]

1) You say ........The brain is a physical organ in the body.  The mind and consciousness are products of the brain's operation.

Wrong.  
There is no evidence of whatsoever that this is the case.

And I've told you before, after providing said evidence, that you're just a liar on this point.

You provided what?
Show me, show me girl.

Energy and consciousness are dependent on each other to function however it is the consciousness that
start the action as it awake from the latent stage.

No evidence that this is the case.

A dead body is still full of energy but it can't do anything by itself.
On the other hand it can do a lot once the consciousness is there.
You never thought about it yog, did you?  

This can be seen in some types of matter that release energy like uranium.
The matter had energy in it long long before it was able to release it.
Why then didn't release before?

First off, you're mischaracterizing the radioactive decay of uranium.  It decays in a steady mode.  It doesn't wait a "long long" time.  See the Toklo reactor for evidence that radioactive substances decay at a regular rate.

There is something that you haven't considered.
One thing is to allow the normal life of something.
The other is to interfere in their lives.
It is obvious that if you interfere the result will be different.
Once you bring the radioactive substances into a reactor you interfere
and therefore you can not expect to see the same result as if the substances will be left alone
to follow the natural course.
You never thought about it yog, did you?  

The simple reason is that it had to wait for the consciousness within to get out her state of
slumber so to speak.
Brain is full of energy but energy can not start the action by herself.
Consciousness is always needed that is why to say that the consciousness is a product of the brain is
pure madness.

Since your understanding of the evidence is wrong, your conclusion is also likely wrong.

In this case show me why i am wrong.  

2) Question......what trigger the start of evolution?

You reply....Energy.


Wrong again.
Energy is everywhere in matter but only some types of matter release energy.
But let me explain what the word DECAY means in this particular context.
Decay in matter means that that particular matter is in the process of deterioration
it can not keep as it is or better say as it was for ever.
It need to make a change.
Nothing is destroyed in nature.
It just change.
But the energy in order to make the change need some sort of awareness.
This awareness is called consciousness.
Energy and consciousness always go hand in hand.
And the consciousness in order to trigger the change need to get out the lumber stage in which she was.
Even science tell us that the decay of elements has to do with releasing energy over time.
Unfortunately science is still not aware that energy and consciousness are the two sides of the same coin.
So the trigger is the awakening of consciousness not the energy.

You say that energy and consciousness are two sides of the same coin, yet when I assert energy, you claim that "instead" it was consciousness.  If they're two sides of a coin, it's the same thing!  You can't even make up your mind.

Look at yourself girl.
You got a body and a mind-consciousness.
Who you think is in charge.
Does your body tell your mind what to do or the other way around?
You never thought about it yog, did you?  

3) Question .........Where evolution take you to?

You answer.....Again, evolution applies to species, not individuals, so it takes 'me' no where.

Wrong again yog.  

There is no evidence that that is the case.
Yours is just a guessing inspired by Darwin.
It make more sense that individuals end up in the jigsaw in which they can fit better and therefore
evolution apply to individuals.
If so many similar individuals fit in a particular jigsaw that shouldn't be interpreted as evolution of the species.

This is just nonsensical word salad.  Even so, it's still wrong to think biological evolution applies to individuals.

Sorry yog but the reality tell you that you are totally wrong.  
Just read my previous thread.

4) What is the relationship between energy and consciousness?

You answer.......Energy sustains the metabolism of the cells of the brain.  The cells of the brain cooperatively create consciousness (or its illusion).

Wrong, wrong, wrong.
How the hell can consciousness be a product of the brain when in fact it is the consciousness that
decide to start any mental or physical action?

There is no conflict there.  The consciousness is the mental and physical action.  They are concurrent.

Yog, you are totally lost.  
Consciousness is something ABSTRACT.
How the hell can the cells of the brain create something abstract?  
Get real girl.  

5) you say.......(Note that not one of these answers involved a metaphor or analogy)

Believe me girl.
It would have been a lot better if you would have use some analogies that make some sense rather
than come down with all this nonsense.
Have a good day anyway.  

And it would be better if you weren't just a loon with a bunch of assertions, dogma, and false analogies, but we can't have everything.

Get real yog.
I already destroyed  all atheists dogmas one by one and yet instead of admit it you guys
act with dishonesty pretending that i don't know what i am talking about.
Shame yog, shame.

[Nay_Sayer]

Oh little doubting ricky ticky

Not at all, You can find FSM in any way you please, Sometimes he comes to you and sometimes you must seek him.
Pastafarianism is the fastest growing pasta based religion on the planet.
Not guru, One true god.
Yogurt not yoga.
RAmen

Gee, why you didn't tell me before mate?  
Now i know what you talking about.  
You mean that guy that i look after in the mental unit that go around with a colander on the head.
My boss told me to put him in a straight jacket but to me it doesn't seem that bad.
Although i am a bit worry at times that with that colander on the head he may not see the wall
in front of him.  
Well well, now that you told me that he is your friend i will look after him a bit better.  
No worry mate.  

Dear ricky ticky 

It's ok I forgive you for your intolerance, FSM has taught me to love and forgive.

May FSM's glory erase your hate one day.

Yogurt not yoga.

RAmen

[Little Rik]

Gee, why you didn't tell me before mate?  
Now i know what you talking about.  
You mean that guy that i look after in the mental unit that go around with a colander on the head.
My boss told me to put him in a straight jacket but to me it doesn't seem that bad.
Although i am a bit worry at times that with that colander on the head he may not see the wall
in front of him.  
Well well, now that you told me that he is your friend i will look after him a bit better.  
No worry mate.  

Dear ricky ticky 

It's ok I forgive you for your intolerance, FSM has taught me to love and forgive.

May FSM's glory erase your hate one day.

Yogurt not yoga.
RAmen

Not stupid your guru-god.  
Once you go to his paradise you only get a bowl of overcooked ramen and a cup of yougurt
and he keeps all the virgins for himself.  
To add salt to the wound he force you to keep the colander on your head so you can't even see what
he is doing with the virgins.       
Much better go to his hell then.  

[Nay_Sayer]

Dear ricky ticky 

It's ok I forgive you for your intolerance, FSM has taught me to love and forgive.

May FSM's glory erase your hate one day.

Yogurt not yoga.
RAmen

Not stupid your guru-god.  
Once you go to his paradise you only get a bowl of overcooked ramen and a cup of yougurt
and he keeps all the virgins for himself.  
To add salt to the wound he force you to keep the colander on your head so you can't even see what
he is doing with the virgins.        
Much better go to his hell then.  

 Silly silly ricky ticky
 
FSM is a transcendent being that manifested all space and time, Why would he need virigns?  However all manner of women and men are available for your choosing in Valhalla.

The one true God FSM continues to tell me to forgive you and so I shall.

The colander is to remind us of his sacrifice for you.

You are free to choose hell, FSM never punishes infinitely for a finite life, A few hundred thousand millenia and you be given the option to come on in if you so desire.

As always, Yogurt not Yoga.  RAmen

[Little Rik]

Not stupid your guru-god.  
Once you go to his paradise you only get a bowl of overcooked ramen and a cup of yougurt
and he keeps all the virgins for himself.  
To add salt to the wound he force you to keep the colander on your head so you can't even see what
he is doing with the virgins.        
Much better go to his hell then.  

 Silly silly ricky ticky
 
FSM is a transcendent being that manifested all space and time, Why would he need virigns?  However all manner of women and men are available for your choosing in Valhalla.

The one true God FSM continues to tell me to forgive you and so I shall.

The colander is to remind us of his sacrifice for you.

You are free to choose hell, FSM never punishes infinitely for a finite life, A few hundred thousand millenia and you be given the option to come on in if you so desire.

As always, Yogurt not Yoga.  RAmen

Ok. then.

Let us go to his hell.  
Just one question before i go to his hell.      

Can i take the toothbrush and toothpaste with me?  

[Nay_Sayer]

Can i take the toothbrush and toothpaste with me?  

You may my dear ricky ticky. 

I will pray you let him into your heart so that you may not boil but still yet bask in the glory that is the beer volcano.

Here are some assorted smiles for next time:      

Yogurt not Yoga, RAmen.