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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 5, 2016 at 9:33 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 9:14 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 9, 2016 at 3:41 am)Heat Wrote: More like things God possesses because he is made in the image of Humans. Image equates to the Spirit each person possesses and one aspect of that is God placed eternity within them; everyone knows they will always exist, and who made them. "The fool SAYS in their heart there is no God"; it doesn't say THINK in their heart. Everyone believes in God. This pretense with the 'evidence' is a façade in most cases, for rejection of God's authority not His existence. In other words you can't make a coherent argument so you refer to posting pseudo-bullshit like this^.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 5, 2016 at 10:32 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 9:14 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 9, 2016 at 3:41 am)Heat Wrote: More like things God possesses because he is made in the image of Humans. Image equates to the Spirit each person possesses and one aspect of that is God placed eternity within them; everyone knows they will always exist, and who made them. "The fool SAYS in their heart there is no God"; it doesn't say THINK in their heart. Everyone believes in God. This pretense with the 'evidence' is a façade in most cases, for rejection of God's authority not His existence.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 6, 2016 at 4:02 am
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(March 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't believe in your "God". Proclamation falsified.
Seconded.
The idea that "if anyone disagrees they are wrong" is an impressive thing to write in a book shows a bit of a lack of critical thinking.
I don't believe, and even if I did, I'd tell him to take a long walk off a short pier.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 6, 2016 at 4:07 am
(March 6, 2016 at 4:02 am)robvalue Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't believe in your "God". Proclamation falsified.
Seconded.
The idea that "if anyone disagrees they are wrong" is an impressive thing to write in a book shows a bit of a lack of critical thinking.
I don't believe, and even if I did, I'd tell him to take a long walk off a short pier.
Thirded.
In addition, like you, even if I was certain of YHWH's existence, I would not worship it.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 31, 2016 at 1:16 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't believe in your "God". Proclamation falsified. That's different than knowing he exist. The fact that the universe had a beginning has received overwhelming philosophical and scientific support. Quantum vacuum metaphysical speculations to be the cause is an inferior explanation since itself would be an 'event' not a 'cause'. A better explanation would be a 'god-like being' (who this being is at this point is not being considered) since the 'vicious infinite regress' would cease; theories that make an appeal to infinity breakdown into oblivion.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 31, 2016 at 1:21 pm
(March 31, 2016 at 1:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't believe in your "God". Proclamation falsified. That's different than knowing he exist. The fact that the universe in its present observable state had a beginning has received overwhelming philosophical and scientific support. Quantum vacuum metaphysical speculations to be the cause is an inferior explanation since itself would be an 'event' not a 'cause'. A better explanation would be a 'god-like being' (who this being is at this point is not being considered) since the 'vicious infinite regress' would cease; theories that make an appeal to infinity breakdown into oblivion.
Fixed that for you by adding the bolded part, which renders the rest of your post moot.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 31, 2016 at 1:29 pm
(March 31, 2016 at 1:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't believe in your "God". Proclamation falsified. That's different than knowing he exist. The fact that the universe had a beginning has received overwhelming philosophical and scientific support. Quantum vacuum metaphysical speculations to be the cause is an inferior explanation since itself would be an 'event' not a 'cause'. A better explanation would be a 'god-like being' (who this being is at this point is not being considered) since the 'vicious infinite regress' would cease; theories that make an appeal to infinity breakdown into oblivion.
"God like being" is only put as a possibility by people who believe in a god. For everyone else it begs more questions than it purports to answer.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 31, 2016 at 1:30 pm
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To borrow from Douglas Adams, any evidence for God would dismantle the concept of faith and thus negate the faith-based God.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 31, 2016 at 1:52 pm
The following evidence only counts if one already believes in both an intelligibly ordered universe and the efficacy of human reason. Someone that doubts either of these will not accept the evidence offered. However if both are accepted then the existence of God logically follows from the following observations:
Some causal sequences are essentially ordered.
Effects follow regularly from specific causes.
Some beings better exemplify their kind than other beings of the same kind.
There is something rather than nothing.
Some things gain their existence, preserve it, then cease to exist.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
March 31, 2016 at 7:22 pm
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That's an argument. Arguments are not evidence. What you believe to be true has no effect on what is actually true.
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