Why all god claims fail.

[Doubting Thomas]

What Brian says is true, it can be observed by simple logic.

If Santa Claus doesn't exist, and no evidence can be shown that he actually exists as a real being, then he was obviously made up by humans.

Now replace "Santa Claus" in that sentence with "God."

[Crossless2.0]

Lol. A trans-dimensional being with surprisingly parochial, even petty, concerns.

I'm awed. No. Really.

[Brian37]

Lol. A trans-dimensional being with surprisingly parochial, even petty, concerns.

I'm awed. No. Really.

Yea and that is the worst part, you could almost buy a generic god without a holy  book like deism if you wanted to, a deity unaware of us would make more sense, still absurd of course, but more acceptable.

But that old book god is hardly moral and quite Orwellian like Big Brother. There is no way to call such a character nice.

[Drich]

"Transdemensional" traslation= pulling shit out of my ass.

Define Trans dimensional being. Now take that defination and lay it out besides the attributes of God.

They match

So then what do you call a trans dimensional being if the term had not been coined yet?
(what ever He says to call Him) If He is what He says He is.

[Drich]

show me the 'science'/citations that support the OP

You can't because the OP was constructed from a philosophical understanding of "everything." Which only includes the 3 dimensions. Otherwise if you approached from a scientific POV you'd know Science allows or makes a provision for multidimensional Theory.

All I've done is point out that what the bible describes is a ancient man's understanding of the transdemensional being responsible for this world/matrix and His dwellings.

Why should we care if the Bible makes claims about a transdemensional  being?

The Bible is not evidence for any supernatural claims, it is the CLAIM!

Says a douche who has never read it.

No, the Bible tells us how to validate it's claim by telling us where and how to find God. It's 'proof' is found in following it's turn by turn directions to end at the destination it claims to take you. Before God.

[Ignorant]

EVOLUTION, neurological pathways, we can prove they exist. And when we gap fill we create those pathways even with false beliefs. We know both by measuring the brain LITERALLY in it's electro activity and chemistry the parts of the brain that light up when we think about what we think are positive things, and we know just like a phantom pain an amputee might feel, that "feeling" can be a totally false experience and yet still feel very real.

God belief is no different than convincing a kid Santa is real. If you want to believe it badly enough, no matter how false, you will.

Now it is still NOT up to me to prove shit, so get your god claim in a lab or shut up, either way it is still not up to me to do your homework for you.

All he asked for was a citation for a scientific paper/scientific text/scientific anything which he could use to educate himself about the things you mention here. He's trying to do his homework. Care to help him out by pointing in the direction of the scientific evidence? If not, are you expecting him to just take you on authority?

[Ignorant]

What Brian says is true, it can be observed by simple logic.

If Santa Claus doesn't exist, and no evidence can be shown that he actually exists as a real being, then he was obviously made up by humans.

Now replace "Santa Claus" in that sentence with "God."

If we're being real exact, Santa Claus was not made up by humans. He WAS a human who lived in the late 3rd early 4th century (The bishop Nicholas of Myra). The modern fantastical Santa Claus is based on a real historical person, but it has become a thing much different (and non-existent) from the man he was based on.

And if what Brian says is true and verifiable by simple logic... was there any real need to experimentally and scientifically investigate it?

[RozKek]

Much like a light switch goes from off to on back to off. As soon as you postulate a super hero as the cause of that cycle, then it begs the question as to what caused that super hero, and what caused that super hero and so on. The problem is called "infinite regress".

Ah, no-way. (Say it in a Ted Theodore Logan voice)

All one has to do is simply be smart enough to understand that what is being measured as 'infinate' is the light in the room. Or rather what has been 'created' in a given plane of existence.

No one is making the claim nothing has existed nor can not exist outside of your 'room with a light switch.'
(which leaves room for anything who can reach the light switch the ability to turn it on)

Think of this world this life/your life, as the matrix. There is a 'real world' outside of this one (the area which God exists) God is the creator of the 'matrix' (which again is why everything tastes like chicken) Eternity simply refers to an existence beyond the measure of time we clock at start of or creation this matrix and the ultimate end of it. So when we say God (an infinite being) created "Everything" We are saying a being outside of the matrix/this realm created everything in this being from a specific point in our time and our 'matrix space.'

You see, all your little "can't happens" are easily pooped on when one learns to think outside the little box you've been taught to think in.

Well then, give me some evidence for that being that exists outside of time. Also give me evidence that we are in a realm/matrix and that there is existence outside of it.

[Brian37]

"Transdemensional" traslation= pulling shit out of my ass.

Define Trans dimensional being. Now take that defination and lay it out besides the attributes of God.

They match

So then what do you call a trans dimensional being if the term had not been coined yet?
(what ever He says to call Him) If He is what He says He is.

No, you bought a woo word and want it to match your pet god claim. Still made up crap and still all in your head.

[RozKek]

No Drich, science has proven where god claims really come from. They are a side affect of humans flawed perceptions and a projection of humans qualities, nothing more.

Our species evolved to seek patterns, the problem is back in our early evolution we did not have the benefit of modern scientific knowledge so when answers lacked we gap filled. God is in your brain, your imagination, nowhere else.

Love it!

You start off in a philosophical discussion, when you get your teeth kicked in you retreat to a scientific approach. That is the best concession any atheist anywhere could ever offer! That's what happens when atheists loose a logic and reason discussion, they retreat to their blinders science offers them so they do not have to look anywhere science hasn't already been.

Why else drop the message of the OP and cower behind the dress of 'science.'

So then lets make your failure complete, and call your bluff.

What in the meaning of the word 'theory' suggests to you that 'science' is not gap filling with out 'God?'

Are you saying philosophy is more logical than science? It's the other way around, science starts out with logic and reason.

And don't mix up theory with hypothesis. Theories are well supported. Your god claims aren't. You're asking "what if" without elaborating.