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Controversial views
#21
RE: Controversial views
Ok I think that those place in Africa where people pay to hunt animals is a good idea.  From what I can tell it funds conservation and the animals have large spaces to roam within.

I think black lives matter is a poorly organized group that directs too much anger at police officers and white middle class people rather than black violent criminals who do most of the killing of other black people.

I don't like a lot of the things tax payers money goes to in the UK, to an extent I'm against what I see as over extensive treatment for surgeries, therapy and speech therapy for transgender people in the circumstances we have now in the NHS.

4 billion pounds being given to Syrian aid, not that I'm against charity for Syria even though I think some of that probably does fund terrorism, but I'm against the way it was reported that David Cameron "pledged" 4 billion pounds worth of aid for Syria.  He basically took it from tax payers and gave it to a cause that has a lot of sympathy at the moment to gain popularity, there's no empathy involved, it's not his own money and the people who owned the money had no choice in the matter.

The Royal family.  I've heard they generate income via the tourism they create.  If the royal family do generate more income than they receive from taxes I don't understand why they aren't simply a private business.  It would even be better if it was just the royal person, we pay one person rather than an entire family to be well liked, rich, fly around the world and shake hands with people for reasons of tradition.

I can't think of more right now, I think everyone on here knows my most controversial opinions, I think the best and most thought provoking threads are the controversial ones.


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#22
RE: Controversial views
(April 19, 2016 at 5:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Ok I think that those place in Africa where people pay to hunt animals is a good idea.  From what I can tell it funds conservation and the animals have large spaces to roam within.

I think black lives matter is a poorly organized group that directs too much anger at police officers and white middle class people rather than black violent criminals who do most of the killing of other black people.

I don't like a lot of the things tax payers money goes to in the UK, to an extent I'm against what I see as over extensive treatment for surgeries, therapy and speech therapy for transgender people.

4 billion pounds being given to Syrian aid, not that I'm against charity for Syria even though I think some of that probably does fund terrorism, but I'm against the way it was reported that David Cameron "pledged" 4 billion pounds worth of aid for Syria.  He basically took it from tax payers and gave it to a cause that has a lot of sympathy at the moment to gain popularity, there's no empathy involved, it's not his own money and the people who owned the money had no choice in the matter.

The Royal family.  I've heard they generate income via the tourism they create.  If the royal family do generate more income than they receive from taxes I don't understand why they aren't simply a private business.  It would even be better if it was just the royal person, we pay one person rather than an entire family to be well liked, rich, fly around the world and shake hands with people for reasons of tradition.

I can't think of more right now, I think everyone on here knows my most controversial opinions, I think the best and most thought provoking threads are the controversial ones.

BLM are just racists. It's simple as.

Blame whitey, basically.
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#23
RE: Controversial views
(April 19, 2016 at 5:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: 4 billion pounds being given to Syrian aid, not that I'm against charity for Syria even though I think some of that probably does fund terrorism, but I'm against the way it was reported that David Cameron "pledged" 4 billion pounds worth of aid for Syria.  He basically took it from tax payers and gave it to a cause that has a lot of sympathy at the moment to gain popularity, there's no empathy involved, it's not his own money and the people who owned the money had no choice in the matter.

Ohhh, that reminds me of another one.

I'm against all foreign aid. I think it does more harm than good.
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#24
RE: Controversial views
(April 19, 2016 at 5:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think black lives matter is a poorly organized group that directs too much anger at police officers and white middle class people rather than black violent criminals who do most of the killing of other black people.

If you think the black lives matter movement should be focusing on black criminals killing black people, you are missing the point of the black lives matter movement.
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#25
RE: Controversial views
Around here? That god belief isn't the great satan of delusional thinking. No one should get special privileges in relation to their private beliefs but neither should they be harangued for them.
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#26
RE: Controversial views
What's controversial depends on where you are. On this international and generally liberal by U. S. standards forum I have a bunch of controversial views:

1. Healthcare, food, and shelter are not rights. The government may decide to provide those things but it is not obligated to. The government should not provide any of those things to persons unwilling to work. Unwilling and unable are different.

2. Generally, capitalism provides better results for more people than socialism. Most restrictions on free trade have toxic unintended consequences.

3. Politicians' religious and philosophic views do and should inform their decisions. Secular laws are the only brake on this.

Outside this forum, atheism itself is the most controversial opinion I hold.

But the following are not well received in the mid-Willamette valley:

1. All drugs should be legal for anyone over 21.

2. Rent control is a bad idea.

3. Students in schools and universities should be allowed to express non PC opinions vocally and in print. Ugly views are not hate crimes. They should be discussed, not censored.

4. Irradiated food is not poisonous.

5. Coach led prayer violates the First Amendment.

If I lived in the Bible Belt, the list would be longer, much, much, longer. If I lived in Europe, it would be longer, but with little overlap to the Bible Belt list.
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#27
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I think people who beat children and animals should be slowly horrifically beaten to death.


.....ok I don't really truly believe that but there is a tiny part of me that thinks about it sometimes.
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#28
RE: Controversial views
(April 19, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(April 19, 2016 at 5:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think black lives matter is a poorly organized group that directs too much anger at police officers and white middle class people rather than black violent criminals who do most of the killing of other black people.

If you think the black lives matter movement should be focusing on black criminals killing black people, you are missing the point of the black lives matter movement.

True but not controvsial among people I know.
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#29
RE: Controversial views
(April 19, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(April 19, 2016 at 5:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think black lives matter is a poorly organized group that directs too much anger at police officers and white middle class people rather than black violent criminals who do most of the killing of other black people.

If you think the black lives matter movement should be focusing on black criminals killing black people, you are missing the point of the black lives matter movement.

The leading cause of death in young black men in America is murder.  Other young black men are the vast majority of the people doing the killing. 

 I suppose the point of black lives matter may not be that black lives are important and people should stop shooting black people in which case maybe their focus is in the right place but their title is misleading.  It should be something like "We don't like police officers."  or "We like shouting at white people."


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#30
RE: Controversial views
(April 19, 2016 at 5:27 pm)paulpablo Wrote: The leading cause of death in young black men in America is murder.  Other young black men are the vast majority of the people doing the killing. 

 I suppose the point of black lives matter may not be that black lives are important and people should stop shooting black people in which case maybe their focus is in the right place but their title is misleading.  It should be something like "We don't like police officers."  or "We like shouting at white people."

I may be wrong but I think the point of 'black lives matter' is that they're saying that white people effectively get preferential treatment on the whole by police forces, so much so that a black person is more likely to be shot by a police officer than a white person? Which is why they're saying "black lives matter", as in "black lives matter too"...

A white cop is more likely to shoot a black person because apparently his life is worth less to that officer than a white person. I think that's the gist.
Might be totally wrong but that's my understanding of it.

Either way whenever I've seen these people in the news they're always being dicks.
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