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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 1:19 pm
(April 25, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Losty Wrote:
(April 24, 2016 at 2:17 pm)RozKek Wrote: This is quite similiar to free will but: Do you believe we control our thoughts or do our thoughts control us?

I think our thoughts are us.

You mean like the 'us' that each of us identifies as?
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 2:24 pm
(April 24, 2016 at 2:17 pm)RozKek Wrote: This is quite similiar to free will but: Do you believe we control our thoughts or do our thoughts control us?

I think it's a bit of both. You can get sucked into thoughts and then they can control you but at the same time you can be mindful and choose not to engage with thoughts and then they can't control you.
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 4:07 pm
Out, out, out! Get out now!!!! STOP!!!!!!!!!!!

Never mind, thought you were the controller.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 6:26 pm
(April 25, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: "Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
~ Schopenhauer

But what if he just writes a blank check to will what is willed?  Huh?  Then what?
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 6:28 pm (This post was last modified: April 25, 2016 at 6:28 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
@ Jor

That's always been one of my favorite quotes ever. It's so pithy. And correct.
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 6:43 pm (This post was last modified: April 25, 2016 at 6:44 pm by Whateverist.)
Okay, on a seriouser note:

Why must it be one thing or the other? Seems to me that there are internal, deliberate pronouncements: Like I am thinking this right now but no one knows. Ha ha. But, oh noes, the fingers be typing my thoughts. Argh!

Or thoughts can come in an invited but open mode as when a writer creates a character's dialog. Or thoughts can come despite your most strenuous efforts to bar them. Like, at a funeral service, must not think of funny thing the dead guy once said .. pttfff .. HAHAHAH! Damn.

Sometimes I wonder how aware we all are of the difference between when we're in a receptive mode of 'listening' to thoughts versus a projective mode 'composing them'.
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 7:12 pm
The "I" that I identifiy with is identical to my thoughts.

Sam Harris Wrote:[...]Are you making red blood cells right now?[...]

My body is. I wouldn't identify as *me* making red blood cells, even if there were a such thing as free will no one would argue that I make red blood cells of my own free will. I am my body and brain. But "I" am my thoughts.
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RE: Thoughts
April 25, 2016 at 7:18 pm
I haven't road a skateboard in a long while... I don't know why Karl was thinkin' 'bout me.
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