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The main reason I'm an atheist
RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 26, 2016 at 9:38 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(April 25, 2016 at 12:27 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Simply calling something 'vandalization' doesn't make it automatically bad.  It's simply saying that a change which you don't like has occurred.  You need an actual reason why the original is preferrable to the new.  With music and words you don't have a good reason.  All you are saying is 'Boo! I don't like that!'  That's no more relevant to whether it's good or not than other personal opinions that you may have, such as your likes and dislikes.


Wrong again yog.  Banging Head On Desk

Take a junkie.
You can be sure that he always will say that drugs are very good.
What is good or bad can not be judged by sick people but by expert and intelligent people
and you can be sure that intelligent people will never judge on like or dislike but they will judge
according to what is right or wrong.  Lightbulb

Are you trying to imply that you are expert and intelligent? Regardless, intelligence is no immunity to error. So in addition to continuing to fail to provide a reason for preferring the old to the new, you've just introduced some irrelevant twaddle that happens to be wrong. Seriously, are you really asserting that your judgement in the matter is infallible? I don't think so. Provide a sound reason for preferring the original to newer instances in music or words, or GTFO.
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 26, 2016 at 10:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(April 26, 2016 at 9:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again yog.  Banging Head On Desk

Take a junkie.
You can be sure that he always will say that drugs are very good.
What is good or bad can not be judged by sick people but by expert and intelligent people
and you can be sure that intelligent people will never judge on like or dislike but they will judge
according to what is right or wrong.  Lightbulb

Are you trying to imply that you are expert and intelligent?  Regardless,  intelligence is no immunity to error.  So in addition to continuing to fail to provide a reason for preferring the old to the new, you've just introduced some irrelevant twaddle that happens to be wrong.  Seriously, are you really asserting that your judgement in the matter is infallible?  I don't think so.  Provide a sound reason for preferring the original to newer instances in music or words, or GTFO.


Yog you keep on banging the head on the wall.  Banghead

If the new give us hatred, wars, famine, climate change more diseases and God knows what else then
it clearly means that we are on the wrong track.

The message is clear.  Lightbulb  

You vandalize the good things and you get only more and more problems.  Indubitably
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 26, 2016 at 11:02 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(April 26, 2016 at 10:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Are you trying to imply that you are expert and intelligent?  Regardless,  intelligence is no immunity to error.  So in addition to continuing to fail to provide a reason for preferring the old to the new, you've just introduced some irrelevant twaddle that happens to be wrong.  Seriously, are you really asserting that your judgement in the matter is infallible?  I don't think so.  Provide a sound reason for preferring the original to newer instances in music or words, or GTFO.


Yog you keep on banging the head on the wall.  Banghead

If the new give us hatred, wars, famine, climate change more diseases and God knows what else then
it clearly means that we are on the wrong track.

The message is clear.  Lightbulb  

You vandalize the good things and you get only more and more problems.  Indubitably

The old was just as responsible for wars, famine, and all measure of human cruelty. You're spinning your wheels and making no headway in showing how the old in music or words was better than the new. Besides, I defy you to show that new meanings for words and new music are responsible for the things you claim they are responsible for. Correlation doesn't equal causation and correlation is all you've got. You're just spewing irrelevant tripe.
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 26, 2016 at 3:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(April 26, 2016 at 11:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: Yog you keep on banging the head on the wall.  Banghead

If the new give us hatred, wars, famine, climate change more diseases and God knows what else then
it clearly means that we are on the wrong track.

The message is clear.  Lightbulb  

You vandalize the good things and you get only more and more problems.  Indubitably

The old was just as responsible for wars, famine, and all measure of human cruelty.  You're spinning your wheels and making no headway in showing how the old in music or words was better than the new.  Besides, I defy you to show that new meanings for words and new music are responsible for the things you claim they are responsible for.  Correlation doesn't equal causation and correlation is all you've got.  You're just spewing irrelevant tripe.


You don't get it yog, do you?   Banging Head On Desk

I point my finger in the correct direction and you look at my finger rather than
what lie in the direction.  Begging

Obviously in the past we had all sort of bad things.
Who ever talk about that?
I am rather talking about those people who create something new in order to put an end to the wrong
but most of all i am talking about the good things that have been vandalized and turned into a cancer.
Before Shiva there was no marriage system.
Men used to take women by force, use them and then dump them.
Before Shiva there were no the 7 notes.
People didn't have a proper system of how to play music.
Before Shiva there was no proper system to heal people both physically and mentally.
He introduced Ayurvedic medicine.
Before Shiva people use to worship stone and wood idols.
Shiva introduce the knowledge within in order to expand people consciousness and the awareness of who you really are.
Some smart people took these teaching as something very very precious and important.
Other people follow these teaching for a while then forget about them.
Other people never bother about them and kept on living an animal life.
Other people took these teaching seriously for a while to then turn them into dogma (religions).

As you can see yog there are a myriad of roads in which people move around.
All you have to do yog is to look at the direction not at the finger.
Right?  Smile
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 27, 2016 at 4:44 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(April 26, 2016 at 3:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: The old was just as responsible for wars, famine, and all measure of human cruelty.  You're spinning your wheels and making no headway in showing how the old in music or words was better than the new.  Besides, I defy you to show that new meanings for words and new music are responsible for the things you claim they are responsible for.  Correlation doesn't equal causation and correlation is all you've got.  You're just spewing irrelevant tripe.


You don't get it yog, do you?   Banging Head On Desk

I point my finger in the correct direction and you look at my finger rather than
what lie in the direction.  Begging

Obviously in the past we had all sort of bad things.
Who ever talk about that?
I am rather talking about those people who create something new in order to put an end to the wrong
but most of all i am talking about the good things that have been vandalized and turned into a cancer.
Before Shiva there was no marriage system.
Men used to take women by force, use them and then dump them.
Before Shiva there were no the 7 notes.
People didn't have a proper system of how to play music.
Before Shiva there was no proper system to heal people both physically and mentally.
He introduced Ayurvedic medicine.
Before Shiva people use to worship stone and wood idols.
Shiva introduce the knowledge within in order to expand people consciousness and the awareness of who you really are.
Some smart people took these teaching as something very very precious and important.
Other people follow these teaching for a while then forget about them.
Other people never bother about them and kept on living an animal life.
Other people took these teaching seriously for a while to then turn them into dogma (religions).

As you can see yog there are a myriad of roads in which people move around.
All you have to do yog is to look at the direction not at the finger.
Right?  Smile

I think i will start calling you "DogmaLord", nickname fits perfectly.
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 27, 2016 at 4:51 am)Red_Wind Wrote:
(April 27, 2016 at 4:44 am)Little Rik Wrote: You don't get it yog, do you?   Banging Head On Desk

I point my finger in the correct direction and you look at my finger rather than
what lie in the direction.  Begging

Obviously in the past we had all sort of bad things.
Who ever talk about that?
I am rather talking about those people who create something new in order to put an end to the wrong
but most of all i am talking about the good things that have been vandalized and turned into a cancer.
Before Shiva there was no marriage system.
Men used to take women by force, use them and then dump them.
Before Shiva there were no the 7 notes.
People didn't have a proper system of how to play music.
Before Shiva there was no proper system to heal people both physically and mentally.
He introduced Ayurvedic medicine.
Before Shiva people use to worship stone and wood idols.
Shiva introduce the knowledge within in order to expand people consciousness and the awareness of who you really are.
Some smart people took these teaching as something very very precious and important.
Other people follow these teaching for a while then forget about them.
Other people never bother about them and kept on living an animal life.
Other people took these teaching seriously for a while to then turn them into dogma (religions).

As you can see yog there are a myriad of roads in which people move around.
All you have to do yog is to look at the direction not at the finger.
Right?  Smile

I think i will start calling you "DogmaLord", nickname fits perfectly.


You are running too fast with your fantasy Wind.  4 Horsemen

First of all you got to show that i propound dogmas.  Indubitably

After this you are entitle to call me like that otherwise you are the one who look like the fool.  Smile

But you CAN always turn your fantasy into reality and call me....THE DOGMA'S  KILLER.  Smile
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 27, 2016 at 4:44 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(April 26, 2016 at 3:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: The old was just as responsible for wars, famine, and all measure of human cruelty.  You're spinning your wheels and making no headway in showing how the old in music or words was better than the new.  Besides, I defy you to show that new meanings for words and new music are responsible for the things you claim they are responsible for.  Correlation doesn't equal causation and correlation is all you've got.  You're just spewing irrelevant tripe.


You don't get it yog, do you?   Banging Head On Desk

I point my finger in the correct direction and you look at my finger rather than
what lie in the direction.  Begging

Obviously in the past we had all sort of bad things.
Who ever talk about that?
I am rather talking about those people who create something new in order to put an end to the wrong
but most of all i am talking about the good things that have been vandalized and turned into a cancer.
Before Shiva there was no marriage system.
Men used to take women by force, use them and then dump them.
Before Shiva there were no the 7 notes.
People didn't have a proper system of how to play music.
Before Shiva there was no proper system to heal people both physically and mentally.
He introduced Ayurvedic medicine.
Before Shiva people use to worship stone and wood idols.
Shiva introduce the knowledge within in order to expand people consciousness and the awareness of who you really are.
Some smart people took these teaching as something very very precious and important.
Other people follow these teaching for a while then forget about them.
Other people never bother about them and kept on living an animal life.
Other people took these teaching seriously for a while to then turn them into dogma (religions).

As you can see yog there are a myriad of roads in which people move around.
All you have to do yog is to look at the direction not at the finger.
Right?  Smile

Besides not being an answer to why the old is preferrable to the new in words and music, this is nothing but a bunch of religious myths. It's dogma. You don't know any of that for fact. Even if it were fact, it still doesn't provide a reason for preferring that to the new in words and music. You've had several bites at the apple and you've come up with squat. I have to conclude you have no reason for preferring the old to the new. It's nothing more than a dogmatic belief.
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
Whatever you say, Dogma Lord.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
So Shiva came and stole all the notes from us and left us with only seven?
What a bitch! Angry
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
I wonder if we gave Rik all the attention and respect he'd like for being a life long naval gazer if he would just move on?
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