(April 24, 2016 at 9:43 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

(April 24, 2016 at 9:35 am)robvalue Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_f50j2ivXI

Bwahahaha! 

I like the eyelid twitching before your eyes roll back and you start to tip over.

Well played, sir! Well played.

Thank you

Regardless of its etymology, the word atheism as it's currently used - and remember, dictionaries record usage of language, they don't define it - means "not theism". That's the definition I go with, as to me it's the most accurate summation of my position. A theist believes in gods, I am not a theist, I do not have a theist position. I am thus a-theist.

(April 24, 2016 at 8:36 am)Little Rik Wrote: The term "atheism" originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god
Right?

So let us stick to the original meaning.

Right.
Because the meaning, usage, and definitions of words never ever ever changes over time, right?

(April 24, 2016 at 12:25 pm)LostLocke Wrote:

(April 24, 2016 at 8:36 am)Little Rik Wrote: The term "atheism" originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god
Right?

So let us stick to the original meaning.

Right.
Because the meaning, usage, and definitions of words never ever ever changes over time, right?

That is the very problem Lock.
If people would leave the original meaning alone we wouldn't have religions, hatred and many wars.
Religions are a cancer born out of the vandalization of spirituality.
Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Krishna never teach religion in fact they were against dogma which religions are based upon.
But not only religions have vandalized pure and clean ideals.
A lot of other ideals have also been vandalized.
Arts, music and everything else.
Take the rock music, the metal music and all what our kids are listening these days.
All this are vandalized form of pure music.
That is why we should live the original meaning alone.  

You think that war happens because language changes over time?

Man, you're dumb.

(April 25, 2016 at 10:26 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: You think that war happens because language changes over time?

Well, yes.
In the 1300s 'awful' meant "full of awe", something good. Now it means something horrible.
It was that transition that caused the Hundred Years War. Dontcha know that?

(April 25, 2016 at 6:16 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(April 24, 2016 at 12:25 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Right.
Because the meaning, usage, and definitions of words never ever ever changes over time, right?

That is the very problem Lock.
If people would leave the original meaning alone we wouldn't have religions, hatred and many wars.
Religions are a cancer born out of the vandalization of spirituality.
Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Krishna never teach religion in fact they were against dogma which religions are based upon.
But not only religions have vandalized pure and clean ideals.
A lot of other ideals have also been vandalized.
Arts, music and everything else.
Take the rock music, the metal music and all what our kids are listening these days.
All this are vandalized form of pure music.
That is why we should live the original meaning alone.  

Simply calling something 'vandalization' doesn't make it automatically bad. It's simply saying that a change which you don't like has occurred. You need an actual reason why the original is preferrable to the new. With music and words you don't have a good reason. All you are saying is 'Boo! I don't like that!' That's no more relevant to whether it's good or not than other personal opinions that you may have, such as your likes and dislikes.

Exactly that.
Plus, he says modern music "vandalized" the music before it. But that music also borrowed from the music before it. And that music borrowed from the music before it. Etc etc..

(April 25, 2016 at 2:16 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Exactly that.
Plus, he says modern music "vandalized" the music before it. But that music also borrowed from the music before it. And that music borrowed from the music before it. Etc etc..

If you have to take something from the original then only take the good things and add something in the spirit of the original.
The original philosophy of the one who gave the 7 notes and introduced the real music was all about opening
the spirit within so to expand the consciousness.
Unfortunately today this meaning has been totally lost and the original has turned into junk which is just the opposite of what was intended.

(April 25, 2016 at 12:27 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(April 25, 2016 at 6:16 am)Little Rik Wrote: That is the very problem Lock.
If people would leave the original meaning alone we wouldn't have religions, hatred and many wars.
Religions are a cancer born out of the vandalization of spirituality.
Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Krishna never teach religion in fact they were against dogma which religions are based upon.
But not only religions have vandalized pure and clean ideals.
A lot of other ideals have also been vandalized.
Arts, music and everything else.
Take the rock music, the metal music and all what our kids are listening these days.
All this are vandalized form of pure music.
That is why we should live the original meaning alone.  

Simply calling something 'vandalization' doesn't make it automatically bad.  It's simply saying that a change which you don't like has occurred.  You need an actual reason why the original is preferrable to the new.  With music and words you don't have a good reason.  All you are saying is 'Boo! I don't like that!'  That's no more relevant to whether it's good or not than other personal opinions that you may have, such as your likes and dislikes.

Wrong again yog.

Take a junkie.
You can be sure that he always will say that drugs are very good.
What is good or bad can not be judged by sick people but by expert and intelligent people
and you can be sure that intelligent people will never judge on like or dislike but they will judge
according to what is right or wrong.