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Christian answering questions.
RE: Christian answering questions.
(May 2, 2016 at 1:04 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(May 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Given your record, I assume that by 'scrambling to make up stories' you mean examining the evidence.

 I meant what I said, they have no real answers so they "made up stories," what else could they do to try and save face with their peers. They didn't use science or they would simply have said these things are not possible with the sciences we use. Hint: red blood cells that are not refrigerated will deteriorate within a week, this is a fact.

GC

Unless the cells are protected by some other mechanism, such as refrigeration. But it turns out that scientists have a perfectly valid explanation of how those bone marrow fragments managed to be preserved:

Iron is an element present in abundance in the body, particularly in the blood, where it is part of the protein that carries oxygen from the lungs to the tissues. Iron is also highly reactive with other molecules, so the body keeps it locked up tight, bound to molecules that prevent it from wreaking havoc on the tissues.

After death, though, iron is let free from its cage. It forms minuscule iron nanoparticles and also generates free radicals, which are highly reactive molecules thought to be involved in aging.

"The free radicals cause proteins and cell membranes to tie in knots," Schweitzer said. "They basically act like formaldehyde."

Formaldehyde, of course, preserves tissue. It works by linking up, or cross-linking, the amino acids that make up proteins, which makes those proteins more resistant to decay.

Schweitzer and her colleagues found that dinosaur soft tissue is closely associated with iron nanoparticles in both the T. rex and another soft-tissue specimen from Brachylophosaurus canadensis, a type of duck-billed dinosaur. They then tested the iron-as-preservative idea using modern ostrich blood vessels. They soaked one group of blood vessels in iron-rich liquid made of red blood cells and another group in water. The blood vessels left in water turned into a disgusting mess within days. The blood vessels soaked in red blood cells remain recognizable after sitting at room temperature for two years.


http://www.livescience.com/41537-t-rex-soft-tissue.html
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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Homeless Nutter Wrote:
Godschild Wrote:DNA. Red blood cells of the T-rex, dino bones that haven't been fossilized, evolutionary scientist are scrambling to make up stories that just do not explain why or how these things could possibly happen since the sciences say they are impossible.

LOLOLOLOLOL!...

Is this streak of word diarrhea supposed to mean something? Do you have a link to any credible scientific publication, or is this just some story your grandma told you?

There was an unusual T Rex fossil with preserved soft tissues in a pliable state that creationists were going on about several years back as proving dinos didn't live millions of years ago because it was 'still fresh' and not a fossil. It actually was a fossil, of course.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Christian answering questions.
(May 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Godschild Wrote:  See what I bold above, pot calling the kettle black wouldn't you say. You can make all the excuses you want to not to believe, but at judgement they want count for a thing.

GC

There's a distinction between hitting 2 keys simultaneously - V's next to C - and constantly misspelling one and the same word, even when being corrected.

But that wasn't the main point, was it now?
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PETE_ROSE Wrote:Such animosity here.  I am surprised.  My non-theists friends and I have had respectful and engaging conversations.  I had hoped to find that here as well and be presented with an opportunity to  engage in some intellectual conversations.

If courtesy is important to you, read the forum rules and introduce yourself on the introduction page. That's what it's for.
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RE: Christian answering questions.
Godschild Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:Mysterious ways.

 No, told to everyone in the Bible.

GC

If spiritual discernment worked, spirituality-oriented people would converge on the same answers for the supernatural stuff instead of continually diverging. 'First believe, then look for evidence' works just as well for Scientology. If a salesman can get you to evaluate their product in that order, you'll buy it every time.
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RE: Christian answering questions.
Godschild Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:That is correct. The book only provides the findings of science, the 'things of science' are proven in the lab and in the field.

 There are things that's been called proven yet remain unproven.

GC

Do tell?
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RE: Christian answering questions.
Godschild Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:The Hindus think Brahma created you, and they have just as much evidence that they can show to prove they're right as you do.

Then why has Brahma not contacted me, God the creator has.

GC

Why has God not contacted them? Brahma the creator has.
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RE: Christian answering questions.
Godschild Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:GC, if you send me a hundred bucks, I guarantee you a life that is going to be so good it's indescribable. Are you going to send me the money? If not, why not? I should add that if you don't, your home will blow up killing you and your loved ones.

I know your question wasn't addressed to me, but since it's the kind of thing you ask: I read the Bible cover-to-cover twice, starting with the KJV and then The Living Bible. I honestly couldn't say how many times I've read Genesis and the Gospels and Acts. Having done so has a lot to do with why I'm an atheist today.

 What kind of guarantee comes with this and you know when I posted something like this in jest I was warned never to do it again, is that going to happen with you or does partiality take place because you're an atheist.

Reading the Bible without the Holy Spirit's guidance will leave you with as much understanding as you had before you picked up the book for the first time.

GC

I'm not threatening you, I'm just making a prediction. I guarantee it's true though. I don't blame you for doubting me, but the rewards are so great and the consequences of not sending the money are so horrible, why take the chance?

When I picked it up, I was a true believer. It had never even occurred to me that God was not real. And 'you didn't have the magic decoder ring' is not a very believable argument. Plenty of frauds claim to have special powers of discernment, and it's easy as pie to find two that disagree on interpretation anyway. But I had a lot more understanding after I read the Bible than I had before.
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RE: Christian answering questions.
Godschild Wrote:
abaris Wrote:Honestly, you make me mad with your constant misspelling of "vile". And I'm not even a native speaker. A vial is a small flask, vile is something abysmal. I gave that a pass, since I considered it to be a petty move to play grammar nazi, but if you insist on misspelling, it shines a light on your general education.

I didn't need anyone to consider god to be vile. I only read the bible and didn't like that guy when still being little. But since being little leads to all kinds of things, I made a distincvtion between Jesus and God. They're the same, according to the trinity they're one and the same. Add science class and my father's interest and education on old earth history to this, and you will get why I don't believe.

 See what I bold above, pot calling the kettle black wouldn't you say. You can make all the excuses you want to not to believe, but at judgement they want count for a thing.

GC
You should probably save that until you've pointed out his misspelling about twelve more times and he's still doing it if you want equivalency.
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RE: Christian answering questions.
Godschild Wrote:
Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:I'm not talking about anything someone else said, I'm referring to what *you* said.  If you can't back it up, retract it, because it was bullshit.

As far as the other goes, I haven't smoked in 9 months.  Thanks for asking.

 I didn't call myself a Bright, so I can't provide proof for something I didn't say.

 Great to hear and you've got the smoking defeated, congratulations, have a sip, dance and be happy!

GC

No one said or implied that you called yourself a Bright.
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