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Quote: It doesn't take a genius to figure out that ISIS was created by us hell Hillary and Obama played a role in that.
Oh, please tell us what "role" that was.
To put my point bluntly we supported the Syrian rebels because we want to remove Asaad because he wants to play nice with Israel from power
even though that would be dumb idea. So get this the people over there in the middle east do not sleep well at night they don't feel protected
nor safe considering how many civilians were killed so you have people who lost family because of us and other terrorists groups. So yeah
it would only be a matter of time before the Syrian rebels would betray us they don't trust us at all. To put it like so we have done already enough in
the middle east we made it the hell hole it is today only to get cheap oil by putting dictators in charge. The our "special" president Bush had
to go and kill the one guy if he was still alive to this day things wouldn't have gotten as bad as they have today. I don't blame the citizens
of the middle east for hating us at all nor i blame any country that has the us.
(May 28, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: Meh.
Ok, I'll bite.
I couldn't care less about Hillary Clinton's private email server.
Tell me how Mrs. Clinton's private email server affects whether I will be able to work and support my household until I retire or whether my daughter will be able to afford college or whether my brother will be deployed to yet another never-ending Middle East conflict. Draw a line and connect the dots between the emails and those issues. If you can't or won't, I dismiss your rants.
Well, she created the server to avoid government oversight and interference with her online affairs (oversight that would have brought with it a metric shit-ton of security around the clock), and that very lack of oversight and security apparently exposed the information on that server to cyber attack (for a Secretary of State, I shouldn't have to spell out why that's a problem).
Basically, the email thing only matters if you're someone who cares whether the president is good at not mishandling classified information.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
(May 29, 2016 at 12:54 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:
(May 28, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: Meh.
Ok, I'll bite.
I couldn't care less about Hillary Clinton's private email server.
Tell me how Mrs. Clinton's private email server affects whether I will be able to work and support my household until I retire or whether my daughter will be able to afford college or whether my brother will be deployed to yet another never-ending Middle East conflict. Draw a line and connect the dots between the emails and those issues. If you can't or won't, I dismiss your rants.
Well, she created the server to avoid government oversight and interference with her online affairs (oversight that would have brought with it a metric shit-ton of security around the clock), and that very lack of oversight and security apparently exposed the information on that server to cyber attack (for a Secretary of State, I shouldn't have to spell out why that's a problem).
Basically, the email thing only matters if you're someone who cares whether the president is good at not mishandling classified information.
Yeah and she just proved she cannot handle classified information to the public.... and proved everyone right about being suspicious about her as well.
Depending on what information was in the server because she did get hacked... oh man i hate to be her right now because she could face some real serious
federal jail time.
(May 29, 2016 at 12:54 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Basically, the email thing only matters if you're someone who cares whether the president is good at not mishandling classified information. [/color]
Except the POTUS doesn't handle affairs like the State department does. You think Obama sends emails? Types emails? Do you think the President is tasked with handling and transmitting sensitive material of any kind at any time? No. The President has people to do that for him. If you think Hillary is at risk of blurting out classified information in public and you think Donald Trump is a lesser risk, then I don't know what to say, that's just lunacy.
You think this email thing has any bearing whatsoever to the job of the President? It doesn't. It proves she's untrustworthy and out for power. Tell me a politician who isn't. The way this was handled suggests that she did some things that were either shady or politically damaging and wants to hide it. I don't like Hillary any more than the next guy, but I'm not going to be the guy who gets spoonfed the media hype and parrots it back out.
Hillary's political track record is a good one. She was very popular with her constituents as a Senator. She did an amazing job as Secretary of State, by all accounts except the one Faux News trotted out every day for 4 years. Bernie has even pulled her to the left, which is great in it's own right. We're just in month 18 of dragging her faults through the political spin cycle, and now we all hate her. Even Bernie is starting to look like a bit of an ass after 12 months of campaigning. No one looks good. Least of all Trump, but you are suggesting that a private email server is the capital crime that should mean that Trump will be the next president.
Supreme Court nominees. People want to ignore that, but it is so fucking monumentally important. At least 2, probably three. Lifetime appointments made by Donald Fucking Trump.
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(May 28, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: Meh.
Ok, I'll bite.
I couldn't care less about Hillary Clinton's private email server.
Tell me how Mrs. Clinton's private email server affects whether I will be able to work and support my household until I retire or whether my daughter will be able to afford college or whether my brother will be deployed to yet another never-ending Middle East conflict. Draw a line and connect the dots between the emails and those issues. If you can't or won't, I dismiss your rants.
The point about the email server is that it proves that Hillary is a stupid cunt that can't be trusted with national secrets. If there was a real legal system in the country her ass would be in a supermax prison till she croaks. It will be a sad day in American history if she wins the election. She needs to stop banging that muslim foreign agent.
(May 29, 2016 at 12:54 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Basically, the email thing only matters if you're someone who cares whether the president is good at not mishandling classified information. [/color]
Except the POTUS doesn't handle affairs like the State department does. You think Obama sends emails? Types emails? Do you think the President is tasked with handling and transmitting sensitive material of any kind at any time? No. The President has people to do that for him. If you think Hillary is at risk of blurting out classified information in public and you think Donald Trump is a lesser risk, then I don't know what to say, that's just lunacy.
You think this email thing has any bearing whatsoever to the job of the President? It doesn't. It proves she's untrustworthy and out for power. Tell me a politician who isn't. The way this was handled suggests that she did some things that were either shady or politically damaging and wants to hide it. I don't like Hillary any more than the next guy, but I'm not going to be the guy who gets spoonfed the media hype and parrots it back out.
Hillary's political track record is a good one. She was very popular with her constituents as a Senator. She did an amazing job as Secretary of State, by all accounts except the one Faux News trotted out every day for 4 years. Bernie has even pulled her to the left, which is great in it's own right. We're just in month 18 of dragging her faults through the political spin cycle, and now we all hate her. Even Bernie is starting to look like a bit of an ass after 12 months of campaigning. No one looks good. Least of all Trump, but you are suggesting that a private email server is the capital crime that should mean that Trump will be the next president.
Quote:Supreme Court nominees. People want to ignore that, but it is so fucking monumentally important. At least 2, probably three. Lifetime appointments made by Donald Fucking Trump.
There won't be any real difference between the people Trump or Hillary will appoint. The people will be Catholics and Jews from Harvard or Yale. They will do everything possible to deprive citizens of their liberties and freedoms.
How has it come to this, Trump being the most likely next president. The man least able to carry out the role on the planet. There are people in the amazon as yet untouched by civilisation that would make for a more informed nominee.
She stored government secrets on a private server in a basement. She was siphoning government e-mails from a secure goverment network to her private server. Some of the e-mails contain information so secret it's part of the Special Access Program and some of the stuff in the e-mails is so secret the FBI investigators couldn't look at it themselves and had to have the content explained to them.
The sever was unencrypted for three whole months. And we know it got hacked into. Hilary herself, the State Department report says, was worried her server had been compromised. Surely that makes Hilary a criminal? Why do so many otherwise decent, reasonable, people put their fingers in their ears and make the "la-la" sound when he comes to Hilary Clinton? Why do they make an exception for her?
We can only hope this gets Hillary pushed by the wayside to make room for a Bernie nomination.
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