I feel a bit relieved.

[Rhondazvous]

Normally, Rik, I shrug you off as a silly troll, but now I think you're truly disgusting for trying to further your agenda in the wake of this horrible thing that happened.

Fuck.

You.

It is disgusting that these Christians who tell us how sacred human life is to their god when it comes to unborn fetuses, are at the vanguard of the gun lobby and are totally indifferent to the senseless slaughter of full grown human beings.

[Little Rik]

As I just said in a previous post the father will have no choice in how his grown up sons-daughters behave.
That is how evolution works.
Plants and animals follow the instinct law but as the consciousness in animals grows up into humans then
the instinct slowly give way to free will.
The main problem with most atheists is that they think that the physical death represent the end of everything therefore it doesn't make sense anything else.

In answering your question I say...... there is not such a thing as the absence of God.
It is all about having his children the free will to do what they wish as you would let yours to do the same once they grow up.
Are you that stupid to think that you can prevent your adult son-daughters to do or not to do whatever they like?  

So, I'm going to take the fact that you intentionally ignored my direct question as to the motive behind your post as confirmation once and for all that you are indeed a troll.  My recommendation to others is don't waste your time.

Actually I did answer your question.
Your problem is that you didn't get it.  
Didn't I say that if you don't like to be challenge you should join a club in which everybody
follow the same policy.
A forum in theory is a public space in which everybody is free to challenge everybody else.
Of course you can also be an hypocrite and pretend that this is not a real forum and ask the
management to kick me out.
Again you would be the loser as your brain would get stale and rancid without any challenge.  

[LadyForCamus]

So, I'm going to take the fact that you intentionally ignored my direct question as to the motive behind your post as confirmation once and for all that you are indeed a troll.  My recommendation to others is don't waste your time.

Actually I did answer your question.
Your problem is that you didn't get it.  
Didn't I say that if you don't like to be challenge you should join a club in which everybody
follow the same policy.
A forum in theory is a public space in which everybody is free to challenge everybody else.
Of course you can also be an hypocrite and pretend that this is not a real forum and ask the
management to kick me out.
Again you would be the loser as your brain would get stale and rancid without any challenge.  

*sigh* Okay, Ricky. I'll try this again.

Question: What was the INTENTION of your OP?

A1: Was it to invite an open discussion on some specific topic? If so, which topic would you like to discuss?

A2: Or, was your intention to piss people off using sarcasm in order to instigate an argument for argument's sake, because you think arguing is fun?


Which one, Ricky?

[Little Rik]

Normally, Rik, I shrug you off as a silly troll, but now I think you're truly disgusting for trying to further your agenda in the wake of this horrible thing that happened.

Fuck.

You.

It is disgusting that these Christians who tell us how sacred human life is to their god when it comes to unborn fetuses, are at the vanguard of the gun lobby and are totally indifferent to the senseless slaughter of full grown human beings.

You are correct in saying that about those nasty Christians.

I am glad I am not one of those.  

[Rhondazvous]

Blaming god is more humoring the delusions of the afflicted than a statement of a privately held position.  Atheists don't actually think that god does anything, but some of us know enough to realize that god-speak is the most effective route into a thick skull.

Very true.

This is why I reluctantly bring up attrocities caused by, or ordered by, the various god characters in religious texts. It causes way too many theists to think we actually believe in the gods, but do not like their actions depicted in the religious texts.

They spend a lot more time convincing themselves that we believe in god than convincing us to believe in it/he/she/whatever. Unto what purpose, I do not know.

[Little Rik]

Actually I did answer your question.
Your problem is that you didn't get it.  
Didn't I say that if you don't like to be challenge you should join a club in which everybody
follow the same policy.
A forum in theory is a public space in which everybody is free to challenge everybody else.
Of course you can also be an hypocrite and pretend that this is not a real forum and ask the
management to kick me out.
Again you would be the loser as your brain would get stale and rancid without any challenge.  

*sigh*   Okay, Ricky.  I'll try this again.  

Question:  What was the INTENTION of your OP?  

A1:  Was it to invite an open discussion on some specific topic?  If so, which topic would you like to discuss?  

A2: Or, was your intention to piss people off using sarcasm in order to instigate an argument for argument's sake, because you think arguing is fun?


Which one, Ricky?

It is all about hypocrisy Camus.

Just scroll back the various threads and see how many times atheists blame God for all sort of troubles.
God have no part in starvation, diseases, wars, torture, murderers, climate changes and so on but idiots
despite the fact that they think there is no God keep on blaming Him for almost everything.
We humans cause all these problems and that can be proved easily.
In starting this thread I wanted to show that it is us human that cause all this trouble.
The Orlando massacre is one of the best example to show that it is human madness the cause not God.  

[Little Rik]

Yeah... remember when I said about people using tragedies like this to push their agenda? You are a piece of shit, rikky. Go and reincarnate somewhere away from me, you unutterable cunt.

I indicate the direction to take to see the problem.  

Unfortunately you keep on looking at my finger.  

How sad!  

[Cyberman]

Yeah?

Take a look at my finger.

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[robvalue]

"Nothing goes on in this house without my mate John's permission."

"Who is John again? I've never seen him."

"Don't worry about it."

"OK. But there was a murder here yesterday."

"So?"

"John let a murder happen?"

"Why are you blaming my friend for this? What's the matter with you?"

[LadyForCamus]

*sigh*   Okay, Ricky.  I'll try this again.  

Question:  What was the INTENTION of your OP?  

A1:  Was it to invite an open discussion on some specific topic?  If so, which topic would you like to discuss?  

A2: Or, was your intention to piss people off using sarcasm in order to instigate an argument for argument's sake, because you think arguing is fun?


Which one, Ricky?

It is all about hypocrisy Camus.

Just scroll back the various threads and see how many times atheists blame God for all sort of troubles.
God have no part in starvation, diseases, wars, torture, murderers, climate changes and so on but idiots
despite the fact that they think there is no God keep on blaming Him for almost everything.
We humans cause all these problems and that can be proved easily.
In starting this thread I wanted to show that it is us human that cause all this trouble.
The Orlando massacre is one of the best example to show that it is human madness the cause not God.  

Okay...but the thing is, you are creating a straw-man so that you have something to fight against here. I think it's fair to say most of us here don't blame God for causing tragedy and suffering. First, because you can't lay blame on something you don't believe exists in the first place. But, if we give you god's existence for the sake of the argument, the argument from our side would be that we certainly can hold him responsible for LETTING it happen. Especially if he is supposedly omniscient and omnibenvolent.

There is a difference between blaming someone for causing a thing, and holding them responsible for not intervening.

But again, atheists don't believe your God fella exists at all, so it's all hypothetical in nature.