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June 24, 2016 at 10:09 am
(June 23, 2016 at 3:04 pm)Losty Wrote: Enrico, if you're looking at someone and considering that person to be subhuman just because they've done something you don't like, then you should consider that your life views may be seriously flawed. If your spirituality is better than any religion then it should be making you more moral, not less so.
The reality in this universe is such that nothing stay the same even for one second.
If you think that a human being must be human on the basis that he-she has a human body then
you fail.
I had a collie dog that had more brain and consciousness than many so called human being.
Everything is moving and changing so a human may lose his humanity and a dog may acquire humanity.
The meaning of morality has nothing to do with saying that a immoral person doesn't deserve to be called human anymore.
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June 24, 2016 at 10:14 am
(June 24, 2016 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: (June 23, 2016 at 3:04 pm)Losty Wrote: Enrico, if you're looking at someone and considering that person to be subhuman just because they've done something you don't like, then you should consider that your life views may be seriously flawed. If your spirituality is better than any religion then it should be making you more moral, not less so. Everything is moving and changing so a human may lose his humanity and a dog may acquire humanity.
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RE: I feel a bit relieved.
June 24, 2016 at 10:23 am
(June 24, 2016 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: (June 23, 2016 at 3:04 pm)Losty Wrote: Enrico, if you're looking at someone and considering that person to be subhuman just because they've done something you don't like, then you should consider that your life views may be seriously flawed. If your spirituality is better than any religion then it should be making you more moral, not less so.
The reality in this universe is such that nothing stay the same even for one second.
If you think that a human being must be human on the basis that he-she has a human body then
you fail.
I had a collie dog that had more brain and consciousness than many so called human being.
Everything is moving and changing so a human may lose his humanity and a dog may acquire humanity.
The meaning of morality has nothing to do with saying that a immoral person doesn't deserve to be called human anymore.
If I think someone is a human just because they are a human, then I fail? What?
Every person in the world who has ever existed was a human being from the day they were born until the day they die. To take a person that you consider to be lacking in humanity and treat that person as subhuman makes you immoral. There is no crime that could ever justify treating someone as subhuman.
As far as dogs go, well, dogs are humans too IMO
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June 24, 2016 at 10:31 am
(June 23, 2016 at 11:25 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But you literally just said Yoga is superior to Christianity. You compared the two as well.
You're still avoiding my question though. Why should we care what yoga says? All you say is that "it makes sense to me", but so what? Why should it make sense to anyone else?
In fact, you've also said that people should use whatever 'makes sense' to them, which throws out the idea of any one of the ideologies having any sort of 'truth' value.
Fat.
If being an atheist make sense to you by all means stay atheist.
That is your life.
As an individual your belief doesn't affect me.
If you enjoy what you do carry on with that.
If eventually one day in this or in a future life you may understand that you have wasted so much of your time chasing a mental masturbation then that will be your personal problem.
To me make a lot of sense to aim at what I perceive the top of the top.
Meditation clear my mind and everything is more and more clear as I go along.
Have you ever experience when your ears get full of water after a swim?
It make you feel bad.
You try again and again but you can't get rid of the water from your ears.
After sometime however that water finally get out and you feel so much better.
Meditation in a way work in the same way.
Once you clear your cakras or glands you feel great and everything is so much clear
but of course if you never practice meditation you wouldn't know what meditation is all about
but as I already said to you carry on with your way.
The time is not a problem.
The physical hell doesn't exist however a mental hell may develop later on when you will realize
that your atheism was all a waste of time that could be better employed try to reach the real McCoy.
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RE: I feel a bit relieved.
June 24, 2016 at 10:32 am
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Well they're certainly people
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I feel a bit relieved.
June 24, 2016 at 10:35 am
(June 24, 2016 at 10:32 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well they're certainly people
ETA: Dogs, I mean
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June 24, 2016 at 10:36 am
(June 24, 2016 at 10:31 am)Little Rik Wrote: (June 23, 2016 at 11:25 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But you literally just said Yoga is superior to Christianity. You compared the two as well.
You're still avoiding my question though. Why should we care what yoga says? All you say is that "it makes sense to me", but so what? Why should it make sense to anyone else?
In fact, you've also said that people should use whatever 'makes sense' to them, which throws out the idea of any one of the ideologies having any sort of 'truth' value.
Fat.
If being an atheist make sense to you by all means stay atheist.
That is your life.
As an individual your belief doesn't affect me.
If you enjoy what you do carry on with that.
If eventually one day in this or in a future life you may understand that you have wasted so much of your time chasing a mental masturbation then that will be your personal problem.
To me make a lot of sense to aim at what I perceive the top of the top.
Meditation clear my mind and everything is more and more clear as I go along.
Have you ever experience when your ears get full of water after a swim?
It make you feel bad.
You try again and again but you can't get rid of the water from your ears.
After sometime however that water finally get out and you feel so much better.
Meditation in a way work in the same way.
Once you clear your cakras or glands you feel great and everything is so much clear
but of course if you never practice meditation you wouldn't know what meditation is all about
but as I already said to you carry on with your way.
The time is not a problem.
The physical hell doesn't exist however a mental hell may develop later on when you will realize
that your atheism was all a waste of time that could be better employed try to reach the real McCoy.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, Rik. You're writing in English but you're speaking a different language.
But one thing I picked up on for sure was your sense of superiority. Good for you, enjoy your yoga.
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RE: I feel a bit relieved.
June 24, 2016 at 10:55 am
(June 24, 2016 at 10:14 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: Everything is moving and changing so a human may lose his humanity and a dog may acquire humanity.
Christian apologists just move the goal posts. With spiritualist swamis like the Rikster, everything floats about freely .. especially definitions and facts.
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RE: I feel a bit relieved.
June 24, 2016 at 10:57 am
(June 24, 2016 at 10:23 am)Losty Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: The reality in this universe is such that nothing stay the same even for one second.
If you think that a human being must be human on the basis that he-she has a human body then
you fail.
I had a collie dog that had more brain and consciousness than many so called human being.
Everything is moving and changing so a human may lose his humanity and a dog may acquire humanity.
The meaning of morality has nothing to do with saying that a immoral person doesn't deserve to be called human anymore.
If I think someone is a human just because they are a human, then I fail? What?
Every person in the world who has ever existed was a human being from the day they were born until the day they die. To take a person that you consider to be lacking in humanity and treat that person as subhuman makes you immoral. There is no crime that could ever justify treating someone as subhuman.
As far as dogs go, well, dogs are humans too IMO
It seems that the time stop for you.
The reality is that nothing really stop.
A human being can born pure and very good but later on he-she may become nasty and cruel.
An other person can born nasty and cruel but after sometime he-she may become pure and perfect.
Other people may change only a little in any case everybody change.
If a nasty person would come to me asking for help to sort out his mental problems I surely will help
so no I can not be blamed to treat anyone as subhuman but at the same time I would clearly say to that person that his-her conduct and behavior is not human.
Take that idiot that in this forum say that my mother is a whore.
As far as he is not repented I will treat him as a subhuman person.
The day that he may be repented I will change my mind and treat him as a human again.
That is what I mean with things changing.
The clock of time may go either way as far as progress or regress consciousness speaking.
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June 24, 2016 at 11:05 am
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(June 24, 2016 at 10:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 10:23 am)Losty Wrote: If I think someone is a human just because they are a human, then I fail? What?
Every person in the world who has ever existed was a human being from the day they were born until the day they die. To take a person that you consider to be lacking in humanity and treat that person as subhuman makes you immoral. There is no crime that could ever justify treating someone as subhuman.
As far as dogs go, well, dogs are humans too IMO
It seems that the time stop for you.
The reality is that nothing really stop.
A human being can born pure and very good but later on he-she may become nasty and cruel.
An other person can born nasty and cruel but after sometime he-she may become pure and perfect.
Other people may change only a little in any case everybody change.
If a nasty person would come to me asking for help to sort out his mental problems I surely will help
so no I can not be blamed to treat anyone as subhuman but at the same time I would clearly say to that person that his-her conduct and behavior is not human.
Take that idiot that in this forum say that my mother is a whore.
As far as he is not repented I will treat him as a subhuman person.
The day that he may be repented I will change my mind and treat him as a human again.
That is what I mean with things changing.
The clock of time may go either way as far as progress or regress consciousness speaking.
Whether someone is nasty or nice is completely irrelevant to whether he is human. If you treat any person as subhuman for any reason then you are just as nasty and cruel as they might be or possibly worse. It doesn't make you subhuman it just makes you morally inferior. Keep studying I hope your English improves. <-- that's genuine encouragement by the way. I'm not mocking you. The more you work at it the better you'll get.
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