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UK to leave EU
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:23 am)Mr Greene Wrote: Hopefully this means UKIP and Farage shuffle into the shadows for lack of an actual reason for existence.

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UK to leave EU
My knowledge of economics is a bit lacking to say the least but could someone explain how the bank of England can suddenly make £250 billion available to the banks to avert market crisis?

I understand a bit about quantitive easing but is this a different sort of money that can't be made available to other national services that could desperately use it?

I realise that monetary value floats all over the place but how can banks get an injection when the NHS doesn't? Why is the finance sector special?
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RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:27 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 9:59 am)madog Wrote: The amount of time you took to consider this shows your opinion was made prior to any evidence .... Advertising includes anything that promotes, but that would be lost on the likes of the Christian minded  Dodgy

Ok, so firstly I'm not a Christian.

Secondly, I read your entire post, however as soon as I saw those two words I knew in my gut that you were being facetious. Reading the rest of the post just confirmed my feelings.

Thirdly, whilst "advertising" might include anything that promotes, that's not what the wording of the law states. It uses the phrase "commercial communications", which is a much narrower definition. If the communication is designed to make a commercial sale, it's banned. If it's just discussing the product, or vaping in general, it's not covered.

Commercial communication is a very broad term .... as Google and others are finding out .... You write about a product and communicate it, it is a commercial communication ..... What you should be looking at is the word "promote" 

Note the term commercial communication isn't set in stone and is being raised in many cases that involve legislation from European Directives on information society's 

If every one just looked at Directives and legislation and said Oh look at those two words we are OK we would soon be in the shit  Dodgy
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RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:36 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: My knowledge of economics is a bit lacking to say the least but could someone explain how the bank of England can suddenly make £250 billion available to the banks to avert market crisis?

I understand a bit about quantitive easing but is this a different sort of money that can't be made available to other national services that could desperately use it?

I realise that monetary value floats all over the place but how can banks get an injection when the NHS doesn't? Why is the finance sector special?

I think I heard something about the taxpayer.

Drama tax now.
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RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:36 am)madog Wrote: Commercial communication is a very broad term .... as Google and others are finding out .... You write about a product and communicate it, it is a commercial communication ..... What you should be looking at is the word "promote" 

Note the term commercial communication isn't set in stone and is being raised in many cases that involve legislation from European Directives on information society's 

If every one just looked at Directives and legislation and said Oh look at those two words we are OK we would soon be in the shit  Dodgy

If you look at the post I just made, you'll see that on the UK government website explaining the legislation, writing about a product is not commercial communication, unless it's written about in a promotional way (that is, with the aim of selling it). Plus, reviews / discussions are exempt from the laws.

You are fear mongering over a non-issue.
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RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:23 am)Mr Greene Wrote: [...]Hopefully this means UKIP and Farage shuffle into the shadows for lack of an actual reason for existence.

Yeah - sure. Because that's what happens...  Dodgy
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RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:38 am)robvalue Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 10:36 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: My knowledge of economics is a bit lacking to say the least but could someone explain how the bank of England can suddenly make £250 billion available to the banks to avert market crisis?

I understand a bit about quantitive easing but is this a different sort of money that can't be made available to other national services that could desperately use it?

I realise that monetary value floats all over the place but how can banks get an injection when the NHS doesn't? Why is the finance sector special?

I think I heard something about the taxpayer.

Drama tax now.
Ooh heck, don't like the sound of that. I pay enough as it is and £250B split between us would be a bit of a kick in the nuts.

Interestingly, not heard anything from Georgie O today.
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RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 10:42 am)TubbyTubby Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 10:38 am)robvalue Wrote: I think I heard something about the taxpayer.

Drama tax now.
Ooh heck, don't like the sound of that. I pay enough as it is and £250B split between us would be a bit of a kick in the nuts.

Interestingly, not heard anything from Georgie O today.

He's probably still in shock that Britain voted to get out.
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RE: UK to leave EU
You can advertise a straw, which can be used to snort cocaine, you can even advertise it ...

You can't advertise an e cigarette that can be used both for a benign liquid 95% safer than tobacco ... but you also can't advertise an e cigarette used for liquid that doesn't contain nicotine ....

Tobacco advertising is banned and many other substances, but not the products used to use them such as paper, straws, pipes, syringes, etc etc

E cigarettes are a device that can be used for nicotine and for liquid that don't use nicotine ....

The device is banned from advertising .... I could go further into the directives and explain how this goes beyond the general perception of advertising, but vaping isn't the point I was making  Dodgy
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RE: UK to leave EU
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