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Lucifer
RE: Lucifer
(July 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 6:06 am)lisah Wrote: Well, given that you suggest that people were punished and died for interference, I find myself wondering what they could have done that would call for such extreme retribution. Especially when there are plenty of people out there who have committed extreme atrocities, yet remain alive and maybe even unpunished.

By making such claims, Godschild, it calls your God into question (in my mind); or your understanding of events that unfold and the correctness of  your assignment to your God of such extremist acts.

It also calls to mind the lack of responsibility of those governing activities, and their abilities to select appropriate people to accomplish their tasks, and their culpability in events that occurred.

So, I am just asking questions to make sense of your claims and what exactly could those who suffered have done that was so egregious?

 Yes there are those who have committed atrocities that we would consider worse, but then it's not up to us to decide who commits the worst atrocities against God's holy work, that belongs to Him. When people interfere in God's work to bring salvation to those He will lead to salvation that is an egregious act that God want let alone. Yes I could give you all the details of what they did but, you wouldn't think they were awful enough to warrant such punishment. I've been here to long and read to much  to believe otherwise. So you'll just have to accept what I've said as the truth or not and decide things for yourself. I've not given you a reason to believe me a liar and I hope you will take that into account.

GC

So , God is like a father that severely beats his children for minor infractions? Is there any Celestial Child Protective Services we could call to report this cosmic asshole?
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RE: Lucifer
(July 15, 2016 at 5:27 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Yes there are those who have committed atrocities that we would consider worse, but then it's not up to us to decide who commits the worst atrocities against God's holy work, that belongs to Him. When people interfere in God's work to bring salvation to those He will lead to salvation that is an egregious act that God want let alone. Yes I could give you all the details of what they did but, you wouldn't think they were awful enough to warrant such punishment. I've been here to long and read to much  to believe otherwise. So you'll just have to accept what I've said as the truth or not and decide things for yourself. I've not given you a reason to believe me a liar and I hope you will take that into account.

GC

So , God is like a father that severely beats his children for minor infractions? Is there any Celestial Child Protective Services we could call to report this cosmic asshole?

Nah. Fairly sure the Ghostbusters will deal with it though if you ask nicely
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. For if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes unto you."
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RE: Lucifer
[Image: ghostbusters_catching_jesus.jpg]

(Oh come on; somebody was going to do it.)
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Lucifer
(July 15, 2016 at 5:27 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Yes there are those who have committed atrocities that we would consider worse, but then it's not up to us to decide who commits the worst atrocities against God's holy work, that belongs to Him. When people interfere in God's work to bring salvation to those He will lead to salvation that is an egregious act that God want let alone. Yes I could give you all the details of what they did but, you wouldn't think they were awful enough to warrant such punishment. I've been here to long and read to much  to believe otherwise. So you'll just have to accept what I've said as the truth or not and decide things for yourself. I've not given you a reason to believe me a liar and I hope you will take that into account.

GC

So , God is like a father that severely beats his children for minor infractions? Is there any Celestial Child Protective Services we could call to report this cosmic asshole?

 I knew someone would not understand, but hey I guess I shouldn't expect much from some.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Lucifer
(July 14, 2016 at 7:28 am)robvalue Wrote: I wonder why I haven't been wiped out for calling God a piece of shit every day of my life. But a guy intereferes in a church a bit and he gets executed.

It's an extortion ring, and not a very well organised one at that.

 God works in His own time, not your's.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Lucifer
(July 14, 2016 at 9:54 am)Rhythm Wrote:
Quote:Some became ill with sickness that lasted the rest of their lives, some died from different things, one lost his spouse to the handyman something that brought a huge embarrassment to his prideful life.
Right off the bat, the story is complete bullshit....but, if you're going to lie for christ, at least put your back into it.  

I'm pretty sure that people get sick and die with regularity.  Especially the demographic of churchgoers..all getting long in the tooth.   Similarly, cheating spouses are common among the faithful.   This is just your average day on earth.  You, however, would like to spin a narrative for us in which a limp wristed god punishes people, in this way, over a pile of sticks?

 You seem to be fairly smart so explain why it only happened to the ones that caused trouble before anyone else, and why did most of those who did not die repent to the church. I'm not a liar, you can stick that notion where the sun doesn't shine.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Lucifer
(July 14, 2016 at 12:18 pm)madog Wrote: Its a very short step from saying God killed them to saying I will do Gods will and kill them .... GC is a dangerous shit in my opinion ....

 I'm still wondering who could have been crazy enough to let you out of your cage. It's a long way from what you suggest.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Lucifer
(July 15, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 7:28 am)robvalue Wrote: I wonder why I haven't been wiped out for calling God a piece of shit every day of my life. But a guy intereferes in a church a bit and he gets executed.

It's an extortion ring, and not a very well organised one at that.

 God works in His own time, not your's.

GC

Erm, okay. Well he's slacking off, whatever time he's working in. He used to drop fools for looking at him sideways. Now he's letting pinkos like me run amok.

By the way, was that a very thinly veiled threat delivered on behalf of your spiteful master?
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RE: Lucifer
(July 15, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 7:28 am)robvalue Wrote: I wonder why I haven't been wiped out for calling God a piece of shit every day of my life. But a guy intereferes in a church a bit and he gets executed.

It's an extortion ring, and not a very well organised one at that.

 God works in His own time, not your's.

GC

Then "God" is not relatable on a human level.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Lucifer
He seemed to work in our time pretty good in the bible, when he was a character like any other in a linear timeline.
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