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Afterlife
RE: Afterlife
(August 16, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Will I need a drysuit for the water realm?  I have problems with my inner ear.

Oh, I hate the water realm. You have to keep raising and lowering the water levels to get through it. And you can only do that by playing the Serenade Of Water in certain spots. Takes fucking ages and it's a pain in the arse to get through. Mind, it's worth it to get the Longshot.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Afterlife
(August 16, 2016 at 8:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 16, 2016 at 7:39 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: What solace would you offer a grieving father whose son was killed by a drunk driver?   What promise of justice for the criminal the law could not prosecute?  We can explore what atheism has to offer.  What Ra and the ancient Egyptian text can offer.  There's always Christ.

Is it the offering that's important...because delivery seems to count for something.  At least, in this atheists book.  There's always people offering -something- in christ's name..sure.......I hear you can get a genuine prayer mat for a reasonable price.

I wouldn't make too much of all that offering lest people notice the base affrontary of christian carrion seeking, if I were a christian.

^^ This, in spades.

Not being funny, but anyone who even tried to insult me in that way after Sam died would be eating teeth for the rest of their - very short and painful - life.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Afterlife
(August 16, 2016 at 7:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 16, 2016 at 7:43 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Moons?  Where we're going, we don't need....moons.  Got any string?

And while we're on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstring_theory

Our physical space is observed to have three large spatial dimensions and, along with time, is a boundless four-dimensional continuum known as spacetime. However, nothing prevents a theory from including more than 4 dimensions. In the case of string theory, consistency requires spacetime to have 10 (3+1+6) dimensions. The fact that we see only 3 dimensions of space can be explained by one of two mechanisms: either the extra dimensions are compactified on a very small scale, or else our world may live on a 3-dimensional submanifold corresponding to a brane, on which all known particles besides gravity would be restricted.


And they need better terminology than "dimensions".
I take it you think they should be called fire/earth/water bubbles instead?  What subject are we on, btw, for reference?
No they should be called individually what they are and 4 of them (4 ring tori) do have a specific elemental nature to them.

The 10 "strings" I have found are macro-quantum structures that order the entire universe, let me give you an approachable metaphor: Building a 2 story house.

The inflation of the universe establishes a foundation (central matter) structure, the outer frame of the walls (Higgs field) and the roof (outer border of universe) at the same simultaneous instant. (3 strings)

The next step in this cascade unfolds the electromagnetic force and wires for lighting is run throughout the walls filling the internal space with light and motive power. (2 strings, electricity and magnetism). In the universe

Next step divides the house into the upper and lower story (1 string, in the universe is is a spinning disk like reflective membrane, like the surface of water. It is mass-less as a reflective membrane, is it's own anti-particle and provides for 2 counter spin states, look up Graviton)

Next step builds a room within a room within the space of both the top and bottom story, so that there are 3 spaces nested like Russian dolls on the top and bottom stories. 6 total spatial regions. Our entire physical cosmos is in the inner most room on the 1st story.


In the actual universe these 3 nested room spaces are nest ring tori. Very simply described as wheels within wheels. Local heaven are the 3 rooms on the 2nd story, purgatory is in the astral realm, out side that...outer darkness. But again, as said before, our region (and the antimatter fire region) are growing, pressing against the rooms around them...until eventually they will merge.



When you die, you leave the inner most room and find yourself in the middle space/room, the astral realm. Some people get stuck there, some people pass through. The Lord of the House has a secret room in the middle of the stairs who inspects the quality of each souls work and sends them up or down to the appropriate area of the universe/house. Some area's are better than others.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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RE: Afterlife
Where did you find these strings..and were there cats attached?  Alive or dead?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Afterlife
I also find it interesting the Kalachakra, the "Wheel of Time", one of the highest teachings in Buddhism asserts there are 6 samsaric realms the reincarnating soul can be reborn into....and they are all temporary.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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RE: Afterlife
Do you find the number six to be generally interesting, or only in particular contexts? The wiccan wheel has more spokes.....is that an example of time dilation?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Afterlife
(August 16, 2016 at 7:39 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: What solace would you offer a grieving father whose son was killed by a drunk driver?   What promise of justice for the criminal the law could not prosecute?  We can explore what atheism has to offer.  What Ra and the ancient Egyptian text can offer.  There's always Christ.

Great questions. I suppose I would console the father that he would see his son again.

I would say God holds all accounted for their actions with both justice and mercy. A lot would depend on the drunk driver whether he didn't think much about it and kept drinking, or if it devastated him and he suffered the rest of his life because of it. Way too many variables.

(August 16, 2016 at 8:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Where did you find these strings..and were there cats attached?  Alive or dead?

I yanked them out of an infinite ocean of quark-gluon stew. It's really is quite delicious but there are some meaty bits that you should chew thoroughly before swallowing. Thumb up

(August 16, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Do you find the number six to be generally interesting, or only in particular contexts?  The wiccan wheel has more spokes.....is that an example of time dilation?

No, it just worked out that way geometrically.

The first geometry is a sphere. The second is a pillar torus in vertical motion (universe spanning EM field)...picture the sphere as the skin of an orange and the pillar torus as the white strings that wrap up the inside of the peel and dive straight down vertically as a central combined pillar. It's a circuit.

The third geometry is a horizontal disk that spins 90 degrees off the central pillar and cuts the sphere into a top and bottom hemisphere.

That disk is a reflective membrane and cuts the EM pillar circuit into 2 phases of 2 phases each (4 total in the pillar) like shone below...ignore the lines outside the torus.

[Image: phi-ds-torus-cross-section-cosmometry-net.jpg]

Here is where the elements come from; the four phase of the pillar torus are: Inwards/downs towards center (earth phase, toward the real material foundational point at center), downward/outwards from center to bottom (water phase, innately connected and traveling in same direction a earth phase, now cut in half by the disk), outwards/upwards is the air phase as water evaporates from air, the last phase is upwards/inwards back to the top as the fire phase (compression of air makes heat and rises more so that the surrounding air).

They become reflectively manifest as 4 horizontal ring-tori by the disk and nest according to their original relationships in the Pillar: earth connected water as the central pillar traveling downwards, and air connected to fire as the upward wrapping magnetic counter-movement. Earth/water below, air/fire above. The disk separates them into individual expressions.

The 6 spaces come from the number of regions all these nested membranes give border and form to: Inside the 2 inner most ring tori, between them and the 2 middle ring tori, and 2 between the middle tori and the outer wrap of the pillar torus at the border of the universe. 6 total.


It can also be understood as a very simple dimensional transformation in order of degrees of freedom: The first degree is radial being (sphere). The second degree of freedom is polar motion inside the sphere (pillar torus). The 3rd degree is spin and counter spin (disk). The 4rth degree combines all the previous into a single shape, the ring torus. It is space in motion, in place, that has both vertical rotation and horizontal rotation.

A contained space-time that is both in motion, and still, and can expand.



A parallel possibility is that our physical cosmos in not in the space contained by the inner most torus, it might be it's brane surface.

Either way, the ring tori model predicts a slightly negative curvature of space-time, or saddle shaped.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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RE: Afterlife
Meesa have headaches.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Afterlife
(August 16, 2016 at 8:34 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 16, 2016 at 7:39 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: What solace would you offer a grieving father whose son was killed by a drunk driver?   What promise of justice for the criminal the law could not prosecute?  We can explore what atheism has to offer.  What Ra and the ancient Egyptian text can offer.  There's always Christ.

Great questions.  I suppose I would console the father that he would see his son again.

I would say God holds all accounted for their actions with both justice and mercy. A lot would depend on the drunk driver whether he didn't think much about it and kept drinking, or if it devastated him and he suffered the rest of his life because of it.  Way too many variables.

(August 16, 2016 at 8:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Where did you find these strings..and were there cats attached?  Alive or dead?

I yanked them out of an infinite ocean of quark-gluon stew.  It's really is quite delicious but there are some meaty bits that you should chew thoroughly before swallowing. Thumb up

(August 16, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Do you find the number six to be generally interesting, or only in particular contexts?  The wiccan wheel has more spokes.....is that an example of time dilation?

No, it just worked out that way geometrically.

The first geometry is a sphere. The second is a pillar torus in vertical motion (universe spanning EM field)...picture the sphere as the skin of an orange and  the pillar torus as the white strings that wrap up the inside of the peel and dive straight down vertically as a central combined pillar.  It's a circuit.

The third geometry is a horizontal disk that spins 90 degrees off the central pillar and cuts the sphere into a top and bottom hemisphere.

That disk is a reflective membrane and cuts the EM pillar circuit into 2 phases of 2 phases each (4 total in the pillar) like shone below...ignore the lines outside the torus.

[Image: phi-ds-torus-cross-section-cosmometry-net.jpg]

Here is where the elements come from; the four phase of the pillar torus are: Inwards/downs towards center (earth phase, toward the real material foundational point at center), downward/outwards from center to bottom (water phase, innately connected and traveling in same direction a earth phase, now cut in half by the disk), outwards/upwards is the air phase as water evaporates from air, the last phase is upwards/inwards back to the top as the fire phase (compression of air makes heat and rises more so that the surrounding air).

They become reflectively manifest as 4 horizontal ring-tori by the disk and nest according to their original relationships in the Pillar: earth connected water as the central pillar traveling downwards, and air connected to fire as the upward wrapping magnetic counter-movement. Earth/water below, air/fire above. The disk separates them into individual expressions.

The 6 spaces come from the number of regions all these nested membranes give border and form to: Inside the 2 inner most ring tori, between them and the 2 middle ring tori, and 2 between the middle tori and the outer wrap of the pillar torus at the border of the universe. 6 total.


It can also be understood as a very simple dimensional transformation in order of degrees of freedom:  The first degree is radial being (sphere). The second degree of freedom is polar motion inside the sphere (pillar torus).  The 3rd degree is spin and counter spin (disk). The 4rth degree combines all the previous into a single shape, the ring torus. It is space in motion, in place, that has both vertical rotation and horizontal rotation.

A contained space-time that is both in motion, and still, and can expand.



A parallel possibility is that our physical cosmos in not in the space contained by the inner most torus, it might be it's brane surface.

Either way, the ring tori model predicts a slightly negative curvature of space-time, or saddle shaped.

[Image: 45b10a8986d571677b9261a3f97f72fe80c6d91f...bb096f.jpg]
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