Near death experience of Howard Storm

[chimp3]

I can remember three times in my 25 years of nursing that a person told me about their Not Dead Yet Experience. I just ignored that part of our interaction and carried on with my task.

[The Grand Nudger]

You are a total joke Rit.  

I may be, but was I wrong?  

You ask me about the meaning of ......non sequitur........and then it is you that do not follow
the argument by comparing a death caused by a lack of breath with a death caused by totally different reasons in which the heart stop first.

So you didn't look it up.  You didn't look up either of those other two questions either, did you?  How could you know whether or not what you're saying is...you know...true, how could you know that what you believe is...you know..true, if you're unwilling to do the work?  They're your beliefs, after all...don't they deserve that much...from you if no one else?

Get real son.
In previous posts I already show expert reports in which the brain is unable to do absolutely nothing as soon as the heart stop sending blood and oxygen to the brain.
Are you more expert than the qualified expert?
You just fool yourself Rit.  

What does it say about your beliefs when a fool can dismantle them in two questions? What does it say about you when a fool is at least twice as inquisitive?

[Bucky Ball]

NDE's are nothing but desaturation by brains of oxygen. The 'experience" NEVER consists in anything the person didn't already know about. The music and visuals are ALWAYS from the same culture of the person having them. NDE's are explained. Rats have them :  

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots...xperiences

[RozKek]

NDE's are nothing but desaturation by brains of oxygen. The 'experience" NEVER consists in anything the person didn't already know about. The music and visuals are ALWAYS from the same culture of the person having them. NDE's are explained. Rats have them :  

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots...xperiences

I want Arkilogue to comment on this, I'll be surprised if he finds some bs excuse/"explanation". I also linked him articles about how NDEs are simply natural and have nothing godly about them, I didn't get a response iirc.

[robvalue]

If I ever meet this fucking Howard Storm, there won't be anything NEAR about it

[Little Rik]

If I ever meet this fucking Howard Storm, there won't be anything NEAR about it

Robertoooooooo.  

Storm was an atheist like you and more.
How the hell would he change and become a strong theist unless he got real evidence that God exist?

You never thought about that Rob, did you?  

[Little Rik]

NDE's are nothing but desaturation by brains of oxygen. The 'experience" NEVER consists in anything the person didn't already know about. The music and visuals are ALWAYS from the same culture of the person having them. NDE's are explained. Rats have them :  

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots...xperiences

That study explain next to nothing.
It only show that for the first 30 seconds there is brain activity in rats.
That is all.
It doesn't even understand the difference between brain and consciousness.
As far as the guy think that the vehicle and the driver are the same thing he just waste his time and
at the same time fool those who believe in him.
The brain is just a storage of information and a source of energy.
It is the consciousness that decide to use all this to start the action of thinking or doing things.  
The guy didn't get it that is why his research means nothing.  

[Little Rik]

You are a total joke Rit.  

I may be, but was I wrong?  

You ask me about the meaning of ......non sequitur........and then it is you that do not follow
the argument by comparing a death caused by a lack of breath with a death caused by totally different reasons in which the heart stop first.

So you didn't look it up.  You didn't look up either of those other two questions either, did you?  How could you know whether or not what you're saying is...you know...true, how could you know that what you believe is...you know..true, if you're unwilling to do the work?  They're your beliefs, after all...don't they deserve that much...from you if no one else?

Get real son.
In previous posts I already show expert reports in which the brain is unable to do absolutely nothing as soon as the heart stop sending blood and oxygen to the brain.
Are you more expert than the qualified expert?
You just fool yourself Rit.  

What does it say about your beliefs when a fool can dismantle them in two questions?  What does it say about you when a fool is at least twice as inquisitive?

You don't get it Rit, do you?  

The brain and the consciousness are two separate things.
The fools think that they are not but they are.
When you see a car travelling you think about the car but if you think carefully you understand that inside the car there is a driver so there are two separate entity that take part in the happening.
As the car wouldn't go without a driver or a mind that program her the brain work in the same way so the chances that the brain is able to create an NDE experience are nil.  

[The Grand Nudger]

That study explain next to nothing.
It only show that for the first 30 seconds there is brain activity in rats.
That is all. 
It doesn't even understand the difference between brain and consciousness.

Do you?

As far as the guy think that the vehicle and the driver are the same thing he just waste his time and
at the same time fool those who believe in him.

I see..... you aren't so enamored with experts after all..unless you're pretending to have presented some, pretending that they agree with your religious beliefs.

The brain is just a storage of information and a source of energy.
It is the consciousness that decide to use all this to start the action of thinking or doing things.  
The guy didn't get it that is why his research means nothing.  

Again we see the value you place on experts and scientific research.

When you see a car travelling you think about the car but if you think carefully you understand that inside the car there is a driver so there are two separate entity that take part in the happening.

Yes, and when you see a human body "driving down the road" there is a brain driving it. That must have escaped your vice-like mental grasp? I mean, if you're going to use analogies, however poor...to cover your lack of information on the subject you're discussing...at least try to structure the analogies properly....don't your religious beliefs deserve that? I;m actually trying to figure out what it is you do believe, and why you believe it. Beyond the first principle of your faith, ofc, that everyone is a fool who doesn't get it.

Maybe you're just bad at describing "it"....whatever that is?

[Little Rik]

That study explain next to nothing.
It only show that for the first 30 seconds there is brain activity in rats.
That is all. 
It doesn't even understand the difference between brain and consciousness.

Do you?

As far as the guy think that the vehicle and the driver are the same thing he just waste his time and
at the same time fool those who believe in him.

I see..... you aren't so enamored with experts after all..unless you're pretending to have presented some, pretending that they agree with your religious beliefs.  

The brain is just a storage of information and a source of energy.
It is the consciousness that decide to use all this to start the action of thinking or doing things.  
The guy didn't get it that is why his research means nothing.  

Again we see the value you place on experts and scientific research.

When you see a car travelling you think about the car but if you think carefully you understand that inside the car there is a driver so there are two separate entity that take part in the happening.

Yes, and when you see a human body "driving down the road" there is a brain driving it.  That must have escaped your vice-like mental grasp?  I mean, if you're going to use analogies, however poor...to cover your lack of information on the subject you're discussing...at least try to structure the analogies properly....don't your religious beliefs deserve that?  I;m actually trying to figure out what it is you do believe, and why you believe it.  Beyond the first principle of your faith, ofc, that everyone is a fool who doesn't get it.  

Maybe you're just bad at describing "it"....whatever that is?

Silly Rit.  

The brain is not the one who decide to move the body.
The brain and the body are both matter loaded with energy that allow the body to move
but is the I that decide to start the action of moving and that I is the real you or the consciousness
to exist.
Wrong again son.