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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 29, 2016 at 11:56 pm
What is "philosophical evidence?"
Look, the default position for any idea is that you are unaware of it. Then you are presented by an idea, and you have to decide if it represents truth. Any sensible person would want to confirm that the idea really does represent truth before adopting it as part of his world view.
Your OP question has a serious problem. An "entity" is a thing with an independent existence. What would a non-physical entity even be?
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 12:07 am
And to kinda sum up what others are saying....the question is phrased wrong.
The real question is, "What evidence is there for believing in non-physical entities?"
So far, the answer seems to be....none.
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 12:39 am
(August 30, 2016 at 12:07 am)LostLocke Wrote: And to kinda sum up what others are saying....the question is phrased wrong.
The real question is, "What evidence is there for believing in non-physical entities?"
So far, the answer seems to be....none.
I'd have to say if there WERE evidence, then pretty much by definition, the thing would have to be partly physical. So if there were a God, and he somehow influences the Universe, then that part of God which allows for influence (i.e. the application of force, or the creation of material) would have to be said to be physical.
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 12:40 am
Quote: Is that supposed to be a seriously scientific assessment?
You tell me, pal. Of the two of us, only one believes in fairy tales.
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 12:44 am
(August 30, 2016 at 12:39 am)bennyboy Wrote: (August 30, 2016 at 12:07 am)LostLocke Wrote: And to kinda sum up what others are saying....the question is phrased wrong.
The real question is, "What evidence is there for believing in non-physical entities?"
So far, the answer seems to be....none.
I'd have to say if there WERE evidence, then pretty much by definition, the thing would have to be partly physical. So if there were a God, and he somehow influences the Universe, then that part of God which allows for influence (i.e. the application of force, or the creation of material) would have to be said to be physical. We know of 5 other types of quarks that can make atomic nuclei....and we are made of the lightest type.
If there are other entities/realms that are parallel/overlaping our realm....4 of them would be more "physical"...more dense...not less.
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 1:01 am
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 1:39 am
There are philosophical arguments, but there's no such thing as philosophical evidence.
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 2:33 am
(August 29, 2016 at 10:25 pm)joseph_ Wrote: Materialism is dead nowadays as a serious philosophical theory.
If you say so, but 49.8% of philosophers surveyed by Chalmers and Bourget were naturalists. 56.5% of them were mind/body physicalists. 72.8% were atheists.
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I've had some cool, trippy dreams too. The question is, is it more likely that these figures are subjective phenomena, or objectively existent? Why are you so sure the spirits you talk to are real?
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 2:51 am
(August 29, 2016 at 10:25 pm)joseph_ Wrote: Materialism is dead nowadays as a serious philosophical theory. I think the Kantian realization that the world is dependent on our senses causes us to to doubt that we can contain the world in language or our thoughts. Science has not disproved the existence of other dimensions.
Why would people be unwilling to acknowledge the possibility that spiritual entities exist? I talk to them every day and they talk back to me, using English words and language. I am sure this is real and most societies have had some sort of concept of this. Why would people be unwilling to acknowledge there could be other life besides human life?
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
August 30, 2016 at 4:39 am
(August 29, 2016 at 10:25 pm)joseph_ Wrote: Materialism is dead nowadays as a serious philosophical theory. I think the Kantian realization that the world is dependent on our senses causes us to to doubt that we can contain the world in language or our thoughts. Science has not disproved the existence of other dimensions.
Why would people be unwilling to acknowledge the possibility that spiritual entities exist? I talk to them every day and they talk back to me, using English words and language. I am sure this is real and most societies have had some sort of concept of this. Why would people be unwilling to acknowledge there could be other life besides human life?
First of all, define non-physical entity, properly. I have the suspicion that it's a nonsense term to begin with...
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