These People Are Delusional

[AFTT47]

Bella, seriously, you've admitted you're not really a Trump supporter. Why do you keep doing this?

She's a Brexit supporter, a teenager and an admitted troll. Why are you surprised?

[account_inactive]

Bella, seriously, you've admitted you're not really a Trump supporter. Why do you keep doing this?

She's a Brexit supporter, a teenager and an admitted troll. Why are you surprised?

I've possibly made a few shitposts in my time but I fail to see how my age or my support of Brexit has to do with anything. Cry me a river.

[Excited Penguin]

Bella, seriously, you've admitted you're not really a Trump supporter. Why do you keep doing this?

Perhaps my stance has changed.

Has it though?

[account_inactive]

Perhaps my stance has changed.

Has it though?

I would say so, yes.

[Excited Penguin]

Has it though?

I would say so, yes.

Well, ok then.

[Chad32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixq-T9GyQdk

Implying they have a choice.

They're a sovereign country. Trump would have to declare a war to force them to do it, though he would probably be fine with that.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Here's my response to this horseshit, posted over eight months ago at TTA -- and I'll stand on it here, too:

You're wrong. Trump does say how he intends to make Mexico pay for the wall on his website. You'll find a lot of information about his policies in general there.

Actually, that's exactly where I went to make sure I got my reply right. Here's what he says there:

Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.

None of those methods will assure that Mexico pays for any wall. He wants to "impound" illegal remittances? How, exactly, will he have the government determine their legality? He doesn't say how much he expects that measure to net. How much money comes from fees for border-crossing cards? Taking Trump's figures of 1 million issued to Mexico multiplied by $160 per card we get $160 million. Temporary visas, for Mexican CEOs and NAFTA workers $190 each, can't be bringing in very much money -- maximum $190 million assuming every border-crossing card issued per above goes to one of these categories; and diplomats are not charged that fee at all [see previous link]. Tariffs against Mexico are illegal per the NAFTA agreement, which has the force of law under the US Constitution, meaning that if he wishes to impose them he will have to denounce that treaty, with the foreign-policy ramifications such a measure entails (this includes Canada). And cutting foreign aid to Mexico, which goes to help fight narcotraficantes, will only increase the instability of our southern neighbor, which will almost certainly drive up the numbers attempting to flee here.

CNN estimates that the wall he proposes would cost between $15 and $25 billion. Trump doesn't say how much he would boost these fees, nor does he say how he'd get Congress to denounce NAFTA, nor how he would ascertain the legality of outgoing remittances.

So as you can see, he put together a list of actions that he'd take to finance his wall, but we see upon further inspection that this is horseshit. It takes a little digging to look past the smoke-and-mirrors, and I certainly don't expect you to take the time to do it given that you're not a citizen or resident of the US, but if you're going to go around plumping for this guy, it's best to do a little research. Talking points do not a sound policy make.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid939165

Anyone with half-a-brain could see long ago that Trump has had a habit of talking out his ass. The idea that his subordinates should be otherwise is laughably naive.

[Minimalist]

Old joke:


Why did the Mexicans fight so hard for the Alamo?


Four clean walls to write on!

[account_inactive]

Vosur.

Shame he got banned here.

[Minimalist]

CNN estimates that the wall he proposes would cost between $15 and $25 billion.

Wait until the Orange Turd finds out he has to get this done first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmen..._statement

An environmental impact statement (EIS), under United States environmental law, is a document required by the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) for certain actions "significantly affecting the quality of the human environment".

This has been US law since 1969.