In the future men will be able to carry children just like women

[Alex K]

Hell, they should make a pill for the father!
It might help, but it would also be cheating.

You think you are joking now...

[Alex K]

I wouldn't even consider it, but I'd be happy for the people who would benefit from it.

I liked Alex's prediction about the future, though. He seems to share my kind of thinking on the matter. I believe as we start leading longer and longer lives we'll start focusing more on threats other than aging that threaten to end them. This is what you had in mind, right Alex?

That will also be the case, yes, but that's not exactly why I made that prediction.

Anyways, I don't remember where I heard it said, but it goes exactly along the lines of your argument and I found it very fascinating to think about: If we naturally lived to be a million years old, we would judge everyday risk entirely differently - for example, getting into a car or crossing a pedestrian crossing on foot would be considered an unbelievably high risk, because on one hand if you'd otherwise live to be a million, you are rather certain to die in traffic before you even approximately reach your full age, and also, there's more life at stake.

[Excited Penguin]

I wouldn't even consider it, but I'd be happy for the people who would benefit from it.

I liked Alex's prediction about the future, though. He seems to share my kind of thinking on the matter. I believe as we start leading longer and longer lives we'll start focusing more on threats other than aging that threaten to end them. This is what you had in mind, right Alex?

That will also be the case, yes, but that's not exactly why I made that prediction.

Anyways, I don't remember where I heard it said, but it goes exactly along the lines of your argument and I found it very fascinating to think about: If we naturally lived to be a million years old, we would judge everyday risk entirely differently - for example, getting into a car or crossing a pedestrian crossing on foot would be considered an unbelievably high risk, because on one hand if you'd otherwise live to be a million, you are rather certain to die in traffic before you even approximately reach your full age, and also, there's more life at stake.

It could've been Ray Kurzweil we've heard these ideas from.

I believe transportation will continue to get safer and better. Self-driving cars are right around the corner, for example.

I didn't miss your point. I completely agree. But I also believe that by the time we improve on our healthcare technologies to such a degree as that we'll have also improved on eliminating or at least avoiding more obvious risks than those related to sickness and aging.

Violence between people might forever remain a concern, unless we're ready to give up significant rights. That might also be the case with rejuvenation technology. Everything comes at a cost.

We might have to submit to mind-reading technologies, ubiquitous surveillance, supervised and controlled birth rates, eugenics, behaviour-altering substances as a form of "treatment" and so on. This might all sound very bad, but it could also become the very best thing, if done right.

[Arkilogue]

Hell, they should make a pill for the father!
It might help, but it would also be cheating.

You think you are joking now...

Kind of but not really and thank you for the return of humor! It's sparse round here........at least I think you're being humorous...?

I'm not really joking about the cheating part. If I'm depressed, why not have a drink? If I'm tired why not just do a little crystal meth? ...you know, just a little. I don't need to meditate and gain control over my dream states for interactive spiritual insight I can eat this little tab purple sunshine...so much less work....

I would however support it for the mother if for some reason her natural cascade of hormone is interrupted.

But that's just me. People can and will do what ever they want.

[Arkilogue]

We might have to submit to mind-reading technologies, ubiquitous surveillance, supervised and controlled birth rates, eugenics, behaviour-altering substances as a form of "treatment" and so on. This might all sound very bad, but it could also become the very best thing, if done right.

Dystopia is best topia!

[Alex K]

We might have to submit to mind-reading technologies, ubiquitous surveillance, supervised and controlled birth rates, eugenics, behaviour-altering substances as a form of "treatment" and so on. This might all sound very bad, but it could also become the very best thing, if done right.

Dystopia is best topia!  

At least it exists somewhere, as opposed to an Utopia, which, by its very name, doesn't

[Arkilogue]

Dystopia is best topia!  

At least it exists somewhere, as opposed to an Utopia, which, by its very name, doesn't

Hah! Now that's how I like to learn! Wit and wisdom, few things are more refreshing or admirable.

[Excited Penguin]

We might have to submit to mind-reading technologies, ubiquitous surveillance, supervised and controlled birth rates, eugenics, behaviour-altering substances as a form of "treatment" and so on. This might all sound very bad, but it could also become the very best thing, if done right.

Dystopia is best topia!  

It's only a dystopia if you give up all of this for nothing. It's not if the reward more than makes up for it.

Do you just pretend to be stupid or... ?

[Excited Penguin]

Dystopia is best topia!  

At least it exists somewhere, as opposed to an Utopia, which, by its very name, doesn't

That's not true. A dystopia is just as imaginary as an utopia. Both serve the same purpose, namely that of guides to a better world.

[Arkilogue]

Dystopia is best topia!  

It's only a dystopia if you give up all of this for nothing. It's not if the reward more than makes up for it.

Do you just pretend to be stupid or... ?

The reward of the absolute end to your privacy of mind, privacy of life and drug induce behavior modification?

The propaganda is working very well...