Where else?

[Little Rik]

Let us see if you can pass the test.

Do you make an effort to breathe?
Do you like to go to bed when you are tired?
Do you put food in your mouth when you are hungry?
Do you feel like having sex sometime?

If you say yes yes yes yes then you seek the perfection.
Surviving is all about keeping your head above the water and that means trying to go ahead.
You may not know where you are going to.
That is irrelevant because something within tell you to continue.
Sooner or later you will know who is that entity within.  

Fear makes your imagination run wild.

On the contrary.
I have no fear of losing my physical body (physical death).
That is not me after all.  

Only fools think so.

[account_inactive]

Rik, why do you waste your time by even coming here?

[chimp3]

Fear makes your imagination run wild.

On the contrary.
I have no fear of losing my physical body (physical death).
That is not me after all.  

Only fools think so.  

Yes , your fears have been snuggled into taking a nap by your wild imagination. That is a sign of maturation for small children, when they can go to sleep without Mommy lying beside them.

[Little Rik]

One step at the time folks.
First of all you got to understand where you are going to?
Are all your efforts done in order to perfect yourself?
If not why you struggle to perfect yourself?
Once you understand where you are striving to go to then I am sure you are striving to go towards perfection.
Where else would you try to go then?

I can struggle to reach the Twin Towers in New York, it doesn't mean I'll ever get there.  We struggle because those who didn't struggle didn't survive and reproduce.  It's programmed into us, not because there is perfection, but because we have an instinct to struggle and persevere.  This tells us nothing about perfection, and everything about how evolution defines what we perceive as good.

Got any evidence that perfection exists and that it is a god (whatever that is) ?

Spirituality can not be described.
It can only be felt like any love experience.
Are you that stupid that you think it is possible to transfer the feeling within?

Once you sort out this question then come the second question.
What is the perfection?
It is something physical, mental, spiritual or what else?

How about "nothing at all?"  Got any evidence otherwise?

Fool.
When you are in love you automatically know that that stage is higher than any other thing.

If you go one step at the time I am sure you will get in the correct direction.

Getting in the right direction isn't the question, it's what is in that direction that is the question.  I can point at the sky on a dark night, it doesn't mean that there is anything at the end of where my finger is pointing.  You've got the cart before the horse.  If your "direction" is pointing at nothing, then there's no reason to try to reach where your finger is pointing.

Fool.
When you hurt somebody a feeling within tell you that you did something wrong but when you please or help somebody you feel good within.
From here you know where the correct direction is.

Now what about God?
Why should he-she be perfect?

I'm sure you'll tell us, using a bunch of bare assertions and cool stories.

No stories yog.
After ages and ages that you look outside and find nothing then you will start looking within.
Guess why?  

Who say so?
Thousand of NDEs experiences say so but again in the atheistic thinking that is all fantasy.

Or at least it's mostly fantasy.  Just because the bible mentions a real place, Jerusalem, doesn't mean that everything the bible mentions is real.  You're making a terrible non sequitur that because some aspects of NDEs may have a basis in reality, therefore everything in an NDE has a basis in reality.  That just doesn't follow.  

At present it's unknown what NDEs mean.  You've jumped to the conclusion that they mean conscious life after death, karma, and reincarnation.  That's a hell of a lot of guessing based on something that is merely unexplained.  Stop guessing and start providing evidence or fuck the hell off.

When science will say that a dead brain is able to perceive clear and sharp experiences then yog will be correct and LR wrong.
In the mean time LR is 99% correct because nobody so far could prove that a dead brain can provide that.  

But why worry so much anyway?
The truth doesn't pop up all of a sudden in this case.
The only way to know is to go step by step and at the end all will fall in place like a piece of puzzle that fit perfectly in the jigsaw.  

When you actually begin to take things step by step, send me a PM.  All I see in the meantime is a bunch of fantastical leaps of logic.

Sure.

[Angrboda]

Even if that is true the brain is still in the impossibility to create sharp and clear description of an event or experience.
It would be like a drunkard description so no only an alive consciousness can provide a sharp and clear description.

And you know this how? This is just another unsupported assertion. What's your evidence that this would be the case?

You're imagining consciousness is like a linear phenomena that if you turn down the brain, you turn down the consciousness. That's an absurd assumption.

[LadyForCamus]

So you're defining God as perfection. Ok, I'll allow for that definition, if you wish.

What then, is your point, exactly? You did nothing but redefine a word and describe the idea behind it.

Don't do it, don't do it, DON'T DO IT, EP!   It's like a landslide; once he starts it'll only snowball exponentially into a heaping mountain of circular horse crap that you will never be able to dig yourself out of!  SAVE YOURSELF before it's too late!  

[LadyForCamus]

This is all so exciting, though, I have to admit. I've never been on ground zero with any of Rik's threads' before. I'm interested to see how it can generate hundreds of pages of one troll interacting with a lot of sane people at a time.

The guy is like quicksand, I swear.  I don't get it either.

[LadyForCamus]

Rik, why do you waste your time by even coming here?

Because for some reason beyond my comprehension people continue to engage him.  This guy has been yammering on about the same NDE crap since I registered at AF in November of last year.  Sometimes I wonder if he's even a real person.  

[Cyberman]

Oh, I'm sure he's not.

[Edwardo Piet]

He can't be a real person. He's extremely wacky and irrational. People are NEVER extremely wacky and irra--wait...