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Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
#61
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
That's a really simplistic idea of the cake situation.
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#62
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
And as far as I remember (correct me if I'm wrong), it wasn't about the message on the cake at all. The issue was them refusing service to a gay couple, not the message on the cake.
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#63
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: But you'll force a guy to frost your cake with a message he finds offensive.

Why would I?  -How- would I? Have you ever stopped to wonder who it is you're talking to when you quote and then "respond" to me, lol?

How about we inject a little reality into your rabid christer fanatasies? No one -forces- anyone to bake a gay cake. They willingly accept to do so themselves when they set up a business as part and parcel of adhering to anti-discrimination laws that apply to the -completely- fucking voluntary marketplace.

If you're worried, mr cake-baker...that availing yourself of commerce might force you to write something on a cake that you don;t agree with...then pro-tip, don't open a fucking cake shop? Don't wait until the last minute to suddenly find that you have deeply held religious convictions that force you to contradict what you have already, voluntarily, agreed to adhere to.
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#64
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:02 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: And as far as I remember (correct me if I'm wrong), it wasn't about the message on the cake at all.  The issue was them refusing service to a gay couple, not the message on the cake.

That would be discrimination, but what about an objection to placing two men or two women on a wedding cake?

Should you be forced to create something you find personally, "religiously" offensive?

There are different types of service jobs: maintenance/repair service, destructive service (my line of work) and creative service. I don't believe a person should be forced to create something new in the world they find offensive.
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#65
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(October 11, 2016 at 2:02 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: And as far as I remember (correct me if I'm wrong), it wasn't about the message on the cake at all.  The issue was them refusing service to a gay couple, not the message on the cake.

That would be discrimination, but what about an objection to placing two men or two women on a wedding cake?

Should you be forced to create something you find personally, "religiously" offensive?

There are different types of service jobs: maintenance/repair service, destructive service (my line of work) and creative service. I don't believe a person should be forced to create something new in the world they find offensive.

They can't be forced to sell a product they don't offer.  All the couple wanted was a fuckin' cake.  The bakery just has to make a cake, and then the couple can do whatever they want to it - decorate it with little tiny dildos or put two star wars figures on top, or whatever else.  It wasn't a "gay" cake that they wanted.  Just a cake.

And if putting two little male action figures on the top of a cake (which they are not being forced to do, remember) is really a violation of your religious sensibilities, you're the one being oversensitive.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#66
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:11 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(October 11, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: That would be discrimination, but what about an objection to placing two men or two women on a wedding cake?

Should you be forced to create something you find personally, "religiously" offensive?

There are different types of service jobs: maintenance/repair service, destructive service (my line of work) and creative service. I don't believe a person should be forced to create something new in the world they find offensive.

They can't be forced to sell a product they don't offer.  All the couple wanted was a fuckin' cake.  The bakery just has to make a cake, and then the couple can do whatever they want to it - decorate it with little tiny dildos or put two star wars figures on top, or whatever else.  It wasn't a "gay" cake that they wanted.  Just a cake.

Thanks for the clarification! Yep that's discrimination and it cost them $135,000
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2479452
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#67
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:16 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(October 11, 2016 at 2:11 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: They can't be forced to sell a product they don't offer.  All the couple wanted was a fuckin' cake.  The bakery just has to make a cake, and then the couple can do whatever they want to it - decorate it with little tiny dildos or put two star wars figures on top, or whatever else.  It wasn't a "gay" cake that they wanted.  Just a cake.

Thanks for the clarification! Yep that's discrimination and it cost them $135,000
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2479452

Good to know my memory isn't total crap yet!
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#68
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:19 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(October 11, 2016 at 2:16 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Thanks for the clarification! Yep that's discrimination and it cost them $135,000
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2479452

Good to know my memory isn't total crap yet!
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I was secretly hoping you were wrong and it was something like this...

[Image: gay-cake.gif]
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#69
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
(October 11, 2016 at 2:21 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(October 11, 2016 at 2:19 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Good to know my memory isn't total crap yet!
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I was secretly hoping you were wrong and it was something like this...

[Image: gay-cake.gif]

I'd take one of those.  Minus the bows. Those are simply dreadful.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#70
RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
I don't see any mention in that judgement of being forced to bake a gay "I'm sorry" cake, either.  It's almost like that shit -never- happened. Which would be strange, considering how often christers screech about it.....but then you have to remind yourself, they have a fetish for screeching about shit that never happened.

Hopefully my daughter, Mo.....never has to run into one of these assholes, because you just know their panties will bunch up if you ask them to write "Gratz to Mo and Jo" on a fucking cake. It's offensive to their dainty, cake-text-based sensibilities.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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