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Another apologist with his "clever" questions
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions
(November 4, 2016 at 10:24 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(November 4, 2016 at 10:09 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: You're using our logic on goblygoop. We already know 2 + 2 = 5 doesn't work *here*, but that's not the point.

It doesn't work anywhere. 2+2 can only ever=4 (I was joking about the redefining) for the same reason that all bachelors are always unmarried. These two tautological facts, the first mathematical the second verbal, are facts in all universes and all realities both actual and hypothetical.

You're just assuming that. You don't know the rules that a completely different universe plays by.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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We can't actually even conceive of or imagine an imaginary world where 2+2=5. We can't imagine a world where two things plus two things equates to give things. In the same way that we can't actually even conceive of or imagine an imaginary world where there is a such thing as square circles or married bachelors. We can't imagine a world where circles are square or where bachelors can be married whilst still remaining bachelors.
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RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions
(November 4, 2016 at 10:24 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: *ahem*

(November 4, 2016 at 10:01 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Fred is not fucking bob!!!! I already called you out on that. Fred and bob are both humans. Our rules here and goblygoop are both "LOGICAL". They are both a formal set of rules that define how a universe works. By that definition goblygoopland has its own version of logic. I'm not asking you to make sense of the actual rules (i.e. 2 + 2 = 5) because yes, TA-DAAA, they are not logical here. But I never said they were logical here. I said they are logical *there*. And the reason being is simply because why not? To say why they aren't logical there is to somehow say our rules here are the True Logic ™ of all the universes. No, that simply isn't so. For all we know, our universe *is* goblygoop. The only way to find out is if we could uncondition our minds, which we obviously cannot. Capeesh?

For the umpteenth time, it doesn't matter whether or not fred and bob are human, because one is logic and the other is goblygoop.  Goblygoop is goblygoop in its place, logic is logic in its place.  If they're both logical..then there is no goblygoop, nitwit.  You're just committed to illogical logic.

That bullshit above is trying to use some goalpost moving nonsense to support an equivocation that you lobbed in support of a non-sequitur. How far down are we going to go, rabbit?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions
(November 4, 2016 at 10:28 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: We can't actually even conceive of or imagine an imaginary world where 2+2=5. We can't imagine a world where two things plus two things equates to give things. In the same way that we can't actually even conceive of or imagine an imaginary world where there is a such thing as square circles or married bachelors. We can't imagine a world where circles are square or where bachelors can be married whilst still remaining bachelors.

...and this is what I told Rhythm 8 pages back...  zZzZz....
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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(November 4, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(November 4, 2016 at 10:24 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: *ahem*

For the umpteenth time, it doesn't matter whether or not fred and bob are human, because one is logic and the other is goblygoop.  Goblygoop is goblygoop in its place, logic is logic in its place.  If they're both logical..then there is no goblygoop, nitwit.  You're just committed to illogical logic.

It does matter that they are both human. One is called Fred, the other one Bob. They don't share the same identity, but they're both human. One is called logic and the other goblygoop. They don't share the same set of rules, but they're both logical... and here's the main point... in their respective universes.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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No, one is goblygoopal...if it's logical, it's just logic. -Yes..identity.....holy shit you got -thiiiis- close.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(November 4, 2016 at 10:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, one is goblygoopal...if it's logical, it's just logic. -Yes..identity.....holy shit you got -thiiiis- close.

Merriam Webster:

Simple Definition of logic. : a proper or reasonable way of thinking about or understanding something. : a particular way of thinking about something. : the science that studies the formal processes used in thinking and reasoning.


and since the beginning this is what goblygoop does in goblygoopland.

Just give it up already. You don't own words Rhythm.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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There's that equivocation again.  This time it's lukewarm, you're fading.  Tell me, which of those three are you going with (or are there 5 there, or eleventy two)?

Goblygoop makes 2+2=5, which flies in the face of the first and third...you must be angling for the hilariously ambiguous middle road....... Rolleyes

A particular way of thinking about something. In your case, a particularly illogical way of thinking about something.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(November 4, 2016 at 10:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There's that equivocation again.  This time it's lukewarm, you're fading.  Tell me, which of those three are you going with (or are there 5 there, or eleventy two)?

Goblygoop makes 2+2=5, which flies in the face of the first and third...you must be angling for the hilariously ambiguous middle road....... Rolleyes

Jesus, I'm not asking you to make sense of goblygoop's actual rules. Just that goblygoop is coherent and can be described as "logical" in goblygoopland.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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I can describe myself as "well endowed" here...but that won't mean I'm actually swinging massive richard, now will it? Now you;ve gone from what might have been honest logical missteps to blatantly disingenuous nothings.

Goblygoop is goblygoopal in goblygoopland. If it were logical, it wouldn't be goblygoop..it would just be logic....and obviously that doesn't work for you, since logic can't make 2+2=5.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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