Trump on 60 Minutes

[Catholic_Lady]

2) We should decide on an individual basis. Not, ugha, bugha, throw them all out. Taking a good hard look at who's here and who's willing to be integrated. In the case of illegals, how long are they already here, where did they come from and what record do they have. There have been several cases of villages uniting and fighting for certain families of illegals when the authorities turned up to deport them. It also shines a light on human perception. These people came to know the ones living amongst them. As opposed to the populatio at large only going by the fear mongering narratives.

I agree with this, btw. Just wanna know where FNM stands and how far he takes his "we shouldn't just abandon them" stance.

[Catholic_Lady]

1. it should be easier to get in, but there should still be regulations/limitations

Yes.  It's common sense that we're not going to let in people on terrorist watch lists, for example.

2. we shouldn't abandon people who come in here, or are staying here, illegally

Can you explain what you mean by #2? I assume it doesn't mean you don't think anyone should ever get deported ever.

I'm saying that we shouldn't abandon people simply because they are here illegally.  The people that don't have the means or resources to take the legal path to citizenship shouldn't be tossed out just because they didn't have the means or resources to take the legal path to citizenship.  They should be given a chance to productive members of society.

So basically you're saying that we should regulate the borders, but that people who manage to trespass anyway should be allowed to stay so long as they haven't committed a crime. Is that what you're saying?

[Faith No More]

They still broke the law.

Yes, but the point being that many of these people are trying to escape desperate situations and don't have the means to go through the legal channels.

[account_inactive]

2) We should decide on an individual basis. Not, ugha, bugha, throw them all out. Taking a good hard look at who's here and who's willing to be integrated. In the case of illegals, how long are they already here, where did they come from and what record do they have. There have been several cases of villages uniting and fighting for certain families of illegals when the authorities turned up to deport them. It also shines a light on human perception. These people came to know the ones living amongst them. As opposed to the populatio at large only going by the fear mongering narratives.

What do you think should happen to a migrant who refuses to integrate?

[The Grand Nudger]

What do we do to natives who refuse to integrate? I don't give a shit whether or not Juan speaks proper english...I don't speak proper english either. Hell, I can;t undersatand most of the people in this country when they open their mouths. I see flags from all nations (and even defeated breakaways) all over the place. The music, don't even get me started on the "music"!

Refuse to integrate, what, exactly, do you mean?

@Cath.
Why, why should we do anything about people who are here trying to get a better life and not committing crimes? You keep saying "I think so and so is unreasonable" - not good enough. You'll have to point out what's unreasonable -about- it.

[abaris]

What do you think should happen to a migrant who refuses to integrate?

First, use a different word. Migrant can cover all of the above and more. As a specific question and you will be answered.

[account_inactive]

What do you think should happen to a migrant who refuses to integrate?

First, use a different word. Migrant can cover all of the above and more. As a specific question and you will be answered.

It is a simple question.

[abaris]

It is a simple question.

No, it's a loaded question by someone used to call refugees "rapefugees". So be specific. I made several distinctions above. Pick one or pick them all. Or simply read what I said above. The whole post. I already made myself pretty clear there.

[Catholic_Lady]

And just to be clear, when I say "willing to be integrated" I mean willing to work, willing to make a decent life, willing to follow the law, etc. I don't mean willing to leave behind their culture or anything like that.

[The Grand Nudger]

You;re describing illegals, then, Cath.  Native born americans fail on those metrics at a greater rate than immigrants. Maybe it's -them- we should be deporting?