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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 4:34 pm
(November 16, 2016 at 4:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I take you for your word as well Cath. You're not a racist.
What's clear from your questions and objections, however, is that you've been steeped in the racists narrative which does exist and -is- the narrative of the debate on the issue, in this country..
You thought, for example, that a problem with illegals might be their failure to "integrate" - which you defined as being willing to work and follow our laws. Lazy criminals. Well, they do work, they do follow our laws. Good god, things would be awfully shitty for them if they didn't, shittier than for you and I. The last thing they need is to be penniless and pulled over for a tail light being out.
You thought, for example, that a problem with illegals might be that we ought to take care of our own first. The takers narrative. Well, we do take care of our own, the illegals aren't eligible, even though they contribute immensely.
You think that allowing more immigrants or making the process easier, or not deporting illegals makes regulating our borders irrelevant, pointless. Fortress america, but, apparently the only reason for the border is keeping mexicans out.
Who do you think sold you these narratives...each one of them wholly untrue but, for some reason, compelling to you? Did you imagine all of this factually untrue shit on your own? When, how? Just sitting there, thinking about things? Where did you get these ideas from? Forgive me for proposing that had you actually done some research on this, yourself...being a non racist and decent human being....you just -might- have approached this whole issue from an entirely different context. Am I allowed to make that generous assumption?
Dude, seriously??? I've explained myself over and over and over again and you're still throwing the "racism" card at me??? Your assessment, accusations, and assumptions of me are completely wrong. Which is frustrating bc I have explained them a million times, and you're still giving a complete opposite representation of what I actually think. I have 0 problem ignoring your posts, but what bothers me is you're giving the other members here who may not have read the whole thread a completely wrong representation of me and of what my views actually are.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 4:36 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 4:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No, Cath, I'm not throwing the racist card at you. Pages and pages and pages ago I told you that I wasn't. You're so fucking defensive, and needlessly so. I;m not making assumptions about you. You;re the one that fielded those objections, that asked those questions. You..apparently, don't know where they come from.
I do.
I will, if you positively fucking need me to. If you just can't imagine any other way that what you've quoted above might be true. If you think that you have to -be- a racist for racist narratives to effect you then fine....is that what you want? I try to give you the generous reading. Which I don't give to anyone else....I don't even consider it as a possibility.....somebody parrots racist shit and I just call them for what they are or labor to make themselves out to be. What do you do? You lose your shit, again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 4:38 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 4:45 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
got carried away and said some things i shouldnt have. deleted.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No I'm not. Still losing your shit. You just haven't thought the implications of your stated positions through and don;t like them being mentioned. You want to insist that they exist in a vacuum.
No, they don't. Stop.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 4:59 pm
(November 16, 2016 at 4:38 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: got carried away and said some things i shouldnt have. deleted.
Now you know why I set them on fire and watch them burn from time to time.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 5:01 pm
CL is far, far too gracious to do anything like you, Drich.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 5:02 pm
(November 16, 2016 at 4:59 pm)Drich Wrote: (November 16, 2016 at 4:38 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: got carried away and said some things i shouldnt have. deleted.
Now you know why I set them on fire and watch them burn from time to time.
That's what Nero said. 
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 5:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Now you've got the usual suspects hovering around you, CL. If that doesn't give you pause, what will? Suddenly, they see you as "their girl"...why might that be?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 5:06 pm
..Can I be a usual suspect? I'll be Kevin Spacey.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 16, 2016 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 5:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You've got to put the work in, man. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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