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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 12:42 pm
Joker exposed himself as a troll as soon as he said Ken Ham won the debate against Nye.
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 12:47 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Stimbo Wrote: @Joker
Even if that was true, which clearly it isn't, it makes no difference. Ham is still a shameless, manipulative liar for the creationist agenda. Truth is not decided by popular opinion or a slick line in rhetoric. It's discovered by actually putting in the work, painstakingly measuring your ideas against reality. Ham and his cronies have never done that. In fact, whenever the truth value of their proclamations has been assessed, they swear blind that it's reality that's wrong.
Ken Ham didn't lie in the debate because Christians are commanded not to lie.
Thou shalt not lie-The Ninth Commandment
Bill Gates (founder and former CEO of Microsoft) recognized that the processing capabilities of DNA are “like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.”Using all their intelligence and all the modern advances in science, have scientists ever created DNA or RNA in a laboratory through unguided naturalistic processes? If not, then isn’t the origin of life still an unverified assumption?
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 1:29 pm
(November 19, 2016 at 5:44 pm)The Joker Wrote: (November 19, 2016 at 4:31 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Rubbish.
A logical argument is not evidence for the existence of a god.
You can't 'logic' something into existence.
The CA commits several fallacies that make it invalid.
Usually, depending on the version of the CA, these fallacies are:
Affirming the consequent.
Fallacy of composition.
Fallacy of equivocation.
"You can't 'logic' something into existence."
I know you can't but you can "use logic" to prove the existence of God.
Think about it.
Every effect must have a cause. This universe and everything in it is an effect. There must be something that caused everything to come into existence. Ultimately, there must be something “un-caused” in order to cause everything else to come into existence. That “un-caused” cause is God.
Who says everyday logics or in this case cause and effect applied to the big bang or before the big bang/universe? Why doesn't cause and effect apply to a god? Why can't the universe be without a cause? Who says the universe isn't eternal, why pick a supernatural explanation before a natural one? You presumed many things before asking the question. Do you really think what you just said has never been thought of?
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 1:33 pm
(November 19, 2016 at 11:33 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Most everyone here I suspect is from the city. I had a farm for 12 years. I never saw a dog mate with a cow and produce a sheep. When I bred my mares with jacks I got mules. Which are sterile. I understand the idea behind evolution. Would not reject it as one of the tools that God uses to accomplish His plan. Just do not see any compelling evidence for it.
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I encourage you to go and teach yourself about evolution, and please abstain from searching '10 reasons why evolution is wrong' and instead go to somewhere actually neutral and scientific. Maybe search 'A basic introduction to evolution' and actually read indepth, because your understanding of how the process of evolution works is completely and embarrassingly wrong...
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 1:52 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 1:33 pm)RozKek Wrote: (November 19, 2016 at 11:33 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Most everyone here I suspect is from the city. I had a farm for 12 years. I never saw a dog mate with a cow and produce a sheep. When I bred my mares with jacks I got mules. Which are sterile. I understand the idea behind evolution. Would not reject it as one of the tools that God uses to accomplish His plan. Just do not see any compelling evidence for it.
-Bolded by me-
I encourage you to go and teach yourself about evolution, and please abstain from searching '10 reasons why evolution is wrong' and instead go to somewhere actually neutral and scientific. Maybe search 'A basic introduction to evolution' and actually read indepth, because your understanding of how the process of evolution works is completely and embarrassingly wrong...
However, some atheists have argued for an eternal universe and contradicting the universally accepted and observable 2nd law of thermodynamics which in turn contradicts an eternal universe, but in which case we are only left with the Biological evolution and not the Big Bang Evolution. The eternal universe argument is not actually a sensible argument according to science. The universe is running down, and something that is running down must have started at some point. The second law of thermodynamics states that the universe is running out of usable energy and if you doubt this, look in the mirror (you’re aging and running down just like everything else).
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2016 at 2:00 pm by vorlon13.)
(November 20, 2016 at 12:47 pm)The Joker Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Stimbo Wrote: @Joker
Even if that was true, which clearly it isn't, it makes no difference. Ham is still a shameless, manipulative liar for the creationist agenda. Truth is not decided by popular opinion or a slick line in rhetoric. It's discovered by actually putting in the work, painstakingly measuring your ideas against reality. Ham and his cronies have never done that. In fact, whenever the truth value of their proclamations has been assessed, they swear blind that it's reality that's wrong.
Ken Ham didn't lie in the debate because Christians are commanded not to lie.
Thou shalt not lie-The Ninth Commandment
Bill Gates (founder and former CEO of Microsoft) recognized that the processing capabilities of DNA are “like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.”Using all their intelligence and all the modern advances in science, have scientists ever created DNA or RNA in a laboratory through unguided naturalistic processes? If not, then isn’t the origin of life still an unverified assumption? (emphasis added)
Fucking JEW !!
False witness is the 8th Commandment !!!
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Fucking JEW !!
False witness is the 8th Commandment !!! Woah. Too far man. I'm a fucking Satanist and even I can tell you antisemitism is not cool.
lol
But in all seriousness I'm almost convinced that Joker is a legitimate troll.
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It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 2:05 pm
legitimate does not = very good at it
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 2:06 pm
and lying about the false witness commandment, it's funny on that level too
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 20, 2016 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2016 at 2:14 pm by The Joker.)
(November 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm)operator Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Fucking JEW !!
False witness is the 8th Commandment !!! Woah. Too far man. I'm a fucking Satanist and even I can tell you antisemitism is not cool.
lol
But in all seriousness I'm almost convinced that Joker is a legitimate troll.
What do you mean by "troll", the word troll is highly subjective in this forum.
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