EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"

[John V]

So, you have a defeatist attitude when it comes to American people you are much, much more likely to be killed by,

Beside the normal rule of law and avoidance of said people, I'm not sure what else can be done. Do you have suggestions? If not, then why call the attitude defeatist?

but when it comes to immigrants, dammit, we have to do something.

Again, what can we do regarding dangerous Americans that we're not already doing?

Can I then assume that you are equally concerned about immigrants coming from the U.K. and France as you are about them coming from Mexico and Syria?  How come we aren't planning to build a wall on the Canadian border, too?

I'm concerned about illegal immigrants. I don't understand why the left has so much trouble noticing the illegal part of illegal immigrant. If Trump just enforces current law that will probably be a good start. Regarding a Canadian wall, I would guess it's a matter of numbers.

Why aren't you guys advocating for African refugees? Too dark for you? Is Syrian brown the limit of color you'll accept?

[Faith No More]

Because we already have people on the inside

Canadians were everywhere

Be afraid be very afraid

I am afraid.  One of these days I'm going to wake up and Americans are going to be five-pin bowling.

*shudders*

[The Grand Nudger]

This was addressed pages ago Alpha.  You're hoping to excuse your own bigotries by insinuating that others share them with you.  Do you really think that's gonna fly?  What does an appeal to hypocrisy establish anyway, that you;re right, or that everyone is wrong?  Okay, assume that we're all bigots, just like you.  We're all wrong...right?  We should all stop being bigots, right?  Moar fugees, from all of the places......right?

[Amarok]

I think that the canadians might be considering handling the construction of that northern border wall, rightaboutnow.  Lord knows, that they know...that we've been coveting their syrup (and, you know, oil) for awhile now.  All the low skill american migrants they'll have to deal with in the next few decades would overburden their system.  We already border hop to avail ourselves of their social safety net.

Nah id never get built hell we still have not finished the 401 yet and we been building it since 1964

And if the provinces get angry over pipelines and delays in cross border traffic I can only imagine the unholy shitstorm a wall across the whole country would invoke

[John V]

This was addressed pages ago Alpha.  You're hoping to excuse your own bigotries by insinuating that others share them with you.  Do you really think that's gonna fly?  What does an appeal to hypocrisy establish anyway, that you;re right, or that everyone is wrong?  

That I'm right, and the rest of you are right too, but don't want to pretend otherwise - same position I started with.

I asked about our peace and prosperity earlier. The point is that, while that's due in part to having stolen a great place from Native Americans, it's also a result of our political and economic systems and our culture. You know about giving a man a fish v. teaching him to fish. Same thing here - exporting our systems would result in lasting improvements, while taking in refugees is just a band-aid.

[Faith No More]

Beside the normal rule of law and avoidance of said people, I'm not sure what else can be done. Do you have suggestions? If not, then why call the attitude defeatist?

Again, what can we do regarding dangerous Americans that we're not already doing?

Well, you said "I have no choice but to live with them."  Sounds awfully defeatist to me.

How about sensible gun legislation and a stronger focus on mental health issues and their treatment for starters.

I'm concerned about illegal immigrants. I don't understand why the left has so much trouble noticing the illegal part of illegal immigrant. If Trump just enforces current law that will probably be a good start. Regarding a Canadian wall, I would guess it's a matter of numbers.

Yeah, we've gone over the whole "illegal" part of illegal immigration ad nauseam here.  I find it weird, though, that we're eighteen pages in and this is the first time you've even mentioned the illegal part.  You've spent so much time pointing out that you care less about non-Americans and trying to project that onto us that it's strange for you to even bring that up.

Why aren't you guys advocating for African refugees? Too dark for you? Is Syrian brown the limit of color you'll accept?

Nice red herring, but I'm curious why you would ask.  Would it make you feel better if everyone else was just as prejudiced as you are?

[Amarok]

Again the racist keeps desperately trying to impose his faults onto us it's desperate really

and yes it's totally a red herring

[The Grand Nudger]

That I'm right, and the rest of you are right too, but don't want to pretend otherwise - same position I started with.

You realize that you've completely lost your shit with the comments above and below, yeah?  That's not even remotely a rational statement, it's not even a consistent statement with what preceded it.  You're not "right", you're "bigoted".  The words are not synonyms....even though the deplorables have clearly taken them to be indicators of each other.  

I asked about our peace and prosperity earlier. The point is that, while that's due in part to having stolen a great place from Native Americans, it's also a result of our political and economic systems and our culture. You know about giving a man a fish v. teaching him to fish. Same thing here - exporting our systems would result in lasting improvements, while taking in refugees is just a band-aid.

"Our culture", you mean the mishmash of cultures appropriated by bigots like yourself and then used to beat the heads of the very people who enrich it?  

So, you want to export our political and economic systems to syria?  Praytell, how might you go about doing that, and how is that supposed to help syrian refugees in the here and now? Yeah, ofc it's a bandaid, you put on a bandaid to stop the bleeding and protect the wound, or is that not what bandaids are for? What do you tell those kids of yours, that you love so much, when they wander in the house with a scraped knee.

"I'm sorry Jimmy, putting a bandaid on that is just a temporary fix and in the long term it might be harmful to you and I -more importantly me, ofc. I'm going to teach you how to fish, rather than giving you a fish, so that there might be lasting improvements to your scraped knee"

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[Faith No More]

Lol, "Sorry you're getting bombs dropped on you. Can I take a moment to tell you about Democracy?"

[Amarok]

All the times he has handed to him and he's still saying he's right the lack of awareness is staggering then straight to typical xeno talk blah blah our culture blah blah back in the old days blah blah look how exceptional we are it's looking in the forest and not seeing the trees