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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 5:32 pm
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(December 21, 2016 at 5:01 pm)robvalue Wrote: Nah, they can only dominate the areas that can be run by force as a theocracy. There seems way too much secular insulation now in most civilized countries for that to happen.
Let's disagree on that point. You have Muslim communities in US, UK and the rest of the world. They keep multiplying faster than what we think, Britain one example of that. If they're at this time in most developed countries, they could be sleeping cells for some jihadis or they could be anything else. The truth is there's no real Muslim who really believes in the core principles of Islam and denies the need of Sharia law. In my experience, there are people who call themselves Muslims but have their own reservations on Sharia, they're demonized by the majority of Muslims. The secular insulation can be indoctrinated at any moment that's only if its not indoctrinated already in Muslim families/communities who live within secular countries.
(December 21, 2016 at 2:15 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think when you're dealing with large populations it's unpredictable. on top of that the vague definition of what makes a Muslim. For example I know Muslims who would be first on the list of people to be executed by Isis for what they get up to at the weekend.
Take the mongol, Viking or Roman Empire.
I'd be surprised if anyone predicted they were on the rise when they were and I'd be surprised if anyone predicted what would eventually happen to them.
Besides the vague prediction that you can say a super power will rise and old super powers will fall, there isn't much else you could be remotely sure of.
Two things Muslims have on their side in terms of getting dominance over regions of the earth are their breeding rates conversion rates and their dedication.
What they have going against them is divisions amongst themselves and a fairly primitive belief system amongst other things.
Yes indeed, their divisions is a key of their decline.
(December 21, 2016 at 3:13 pm)abaris Wrote: (December 21, 2016 at 11:07 am)Defender Wrote: The situation in Germany is really worrying. When the refugee crisis began, Germany assumed the position of the savior but playing hero always comes at a cost. After a series of attacks in Germany, France, numerous parts in Europe and the Americas, the world noticed the cultural incompatibility between migrants and locals. It's not surprising though to see attacks taking place in festivals and public holidays more frequently than in normal relaxed days. No matter when the attacks come, the message is clear, Muslims want to dominate. The psychology of the attackers is similar in nature, you can feel what they’re doing is thought as a superior godly behavior that would result in an eternal heaven. Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before? Share your thoughts with us.
Are you German? If not, please refrain from making uninformed assumptions.
Also, your again is on the same ignorant lines. They never dominated the world. Only the regions where there's still a majority muslim population. Plus parts of Spain up until 1492. The most educated, tolerant and developed parts, for that matter.
Secondly, muslim isn't muslim as christian isn't christian. There are too many fractions to mention. Religious as well as cultural as well as ethnic.
Third, and most importantly, a minority of up to 5 percent at the very most in any given Western country, can hardly strive for domination. The assumption is beyond stupid and doesn't get any wiser by constance repetition.
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(December 21, 2016 at 5:29 pm)Jesster Wrote: (December 21, 2016 at 5:25 pm)Defender Wrote: This is what their propaganda is all about, to make you live in fear. I can't say your fears aren't logical and I don't have the right to blame you while we're witnessing the atrocities committed by Islam. I don't think they'll make you wear a turban before they convert you, that's the sarcastic aspect of the problem.
His sarcasm is easily missed. Don't sweat it too much.
I was wondering if he really meant what he said
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm
(December 21, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Defender Wrote: Are you from the moon to speak about the moon?
Yeah, but when I speak about the moon I probably would embarass myself. That's insight for you. Obviously something you should strive for.
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 6:04 pm
(December 21, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Defender Wrote: (December 21, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you can ever find it where you are there is a great little book called "The Early History of Christianity" by J. P. Jenkins. It does not focus on the West but rather on the early spread of what western xtians would call heresies ( Nestorian, etc) which spread all the way to China while Europe was falling apart during the Dark Ages. With rare exceptions the xtian and muslim groups got along quite well. Until, the Mongols that is in the 13th century.
I'll take this book into my consideration. Thank you for mentioning this info.
If you can't find it - and if you trust the thought police in your country - I have an electronic version of it if you'd like.
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 6:12 pm
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Quote:You have Muslim communities in US, UK and the rest of the world. They keep multiplying faster than what we think, Britain one example of that. If they're at this time in most developed countries, they could be sleeping cells for some jihadis or they could be anything else. The truth is there's no real Muslim who really believes in the core principles of Islam and denies the need of Sharia law. In my experience, there are people who call themselves Muslims but have their own reservations on Sharia, they're demonized by the majority of Muslims.
Actually, the majority of Muslims do not support Sharia law, so I don't see how they can be demonized by themselves for this. The Muslims supporting Sharia law are the extremists, and they don't speak for the billions of peaceful, civil Muslims all over the world. I live in the biggest Muslim community in my country, and have worked with several Muslims, and they're no better or worse than anyone else I've encountered.
Nobody multiplies "faster than we think." Not even bunnies. You seem a little out of touch with reality. Muslims don't multiply any faster than the rest of us; overpopulation is a global problem, not just in Muslim communities. Or have you missed all the stories about white trash families who have 5+ kids?
Also, as far as "sleeping cells for some jihadis" is concerned, the one terror attack we've had in Norway was executed by a blond, white, Christian "alt-right" psycho. He's one of those terrified, ignorant idiots who was so afraid of some dark skinned people with a different religion that he felt it was okay to murder a bunch of helpless kids on an island because of it - after blowing up the government building in the city centre. So spare me the "horrible Muslim world domination" fear propaganda garbage, and go educate yourself instead.
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 10:27 pm
Nope. Religion is slowly losing it's grip on the western world, thankfully. However, in places like the Middle East Islam will most likely remain strong. And of course the Bible belt Christianity will remain strong as well.
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 10:45 pm
(December 21, 2016 at 6:12 pm)Thal Wrote: Quote:You have Muslim communities in US, UK and the rest of the world. They keep multiplying faster than what we think, Britain one example of that. If they're at this time in most developed countries, they could be sleeping cells for some jihadis or they could be anything else. The truth is there's no real Muslim who really believes in the core principles of Islam and denies the need of Sharia law. In my experience, there are people who call themselves Muslims but have their own reservations on Sharia, they're demonized by the majority of Muslims.
Actually, the majority of Muslims do not support Sharia law, so I don't see how they can be demonized by themselves for this. The Muslims supporting Sharia law are the extremists, and they don't speak for the billions of peaceful, civil Muslims all over the world. I live in the biggest Muslim community in my country, and have worked with several Muslims, and they're no better or worse than anyone else I've encountered.
Nobody multiplies "faster than we think." Not even bunnies. You seem a little out of touch with reality. Muslims don't multiply any faster than the rest of us; overpopulation is a global problem, not just in Muslim communities. Or have you missed all the stories about white trash families who have 5+ kids?
Also, as far as "sleeping cells for some jihadis" is concerned, the one terror attack we've had in Norway was executed by a blond, white, Christian "alt-right" psycho. He's one of those terrified, ignorant idiots who was so afraid of some dark skinned people with a different religion that he felt it was okay to murder a bunch of helpless kids on an island because of it - after blowing up the government building in the city centre. So spare me the "horrible Muslim world domination" fear propaganda garbage, and go educate yourself instead. Few Muslims support sharia law
Muslim reproduction rates are overrated
As for sleeper cell yup and the jews control everything and the gays are coming to recruit your kids while men dressed as woman molest your daughter (sarcasm)
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 21, 2016 at 11:51 pm
No! Islam will not dominate the world but Lebanese and Syrian cuisine is the best!
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 22, 2016 at 1:57 am
Actually I have to correct that. The title of Jenkins' book is "The Lost History of Christianity." Don't know where I got "early" from.
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 22, 2016 at 12:12 pm
(December 21, 2016 at 11:51 pm)chimp3 Wrote: No! Islam will not dominate the world but Lebanese and Syrian cuisine is the best!
We've a Lebanese place in town, does some fine food all right.
But it'll never beat a bit of bubble and squeak.
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RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
December 22, 2016 at 12:27 pm
(December 22, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: (December 21, 2016 at 11:51 pm)chimp3 Wrote: No! Islam will not dominate the world but Lebanese and Syrian cuisine is the best!
We've a Lebanese place in town, does some fine food all right.
But it'll never beat a bit of bubble and squeak.
It's very good but will never be as good a Chinese
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