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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 4, 2017 at 7:44 pm
(January 4, 2017 at 7:40 pm)A Theist Wrote: (January 4, 2017 at 7:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Excellent point. You're right of course.
Fwiw, I don't think you're a fascist of any stripe, A Theist.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 4:29 am
(January 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm)A Theist Wrote: (January 4, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: Hey theist, when did ye neo-nazis decide it was ok to like jews, last I heard the word of Titler was still your bible.
Must have trashed the email with the relevant memo.
I support Zionism. You don't. You applaud obama's and the UN's assault on Israel. I don't. That would make you the neo nazi.
(January 4, 2017 at 4:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Want to know how old I am? Every time I read the title I hear BeBe Rebozo.
I'm old enough to remember him too. Can you remember where you were when John F. Kennedy was assassinated?
I don't support zionism because, get this, I'm not racist. Zionism is a racist ideology just like Boer apathied and nazism were, in fact what Israel is doing now vis a vis the Palestinians both inside Israel and Palestine is little different to what happened to German jews between 1933 and 1939. You'd think a coutry born out of murderous oppression would be better than that wouldn't you?
Oh and you didn't answer my queston, when did ye neo-nazis decide ye could ignore Mein Kampf and the Table Talks? It's very hard to follow Titler when you ignore his central thesis.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 5:32 am
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(January 5, 2017 at 4:29 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: (January 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm)A Theist Wrote: I support Zionism. You don't. You applaud obama's and the UN's assault on Israel. I don't. That would make you the neo nazi.
I'm old enough to remember him too. Can you remember where you were when John F. Kennedy was assassinated?
I don't support zionism because, get this, I'm not racist. Zionism is a racist ideology just like Boer apathied and nazism were, in fact what Israel is doing now vis a vis the Palestinians both inside Israel and Palestine is little different to what happened to German jews between 1933 and 1939. You'd think a coutry born out of murderous oppression would be better than that wouldn't you?
Oh and you didn't answer my queston, when did ye neo-nazis decide ye could ignore Mein Kampf and the Table Talks? It's very hard to follow Titler when you ignore his central thesis.
1. Yup at the heart of Zionism is a philosophy that all non Jews are inferior don't believe me read dear Theodors writings on the matter (PS he wasn't even nice to many Jews )(and yes I know there were sects called Zionism in the 18th century but they were different then the Zionism after the second world war)
2.Hitlers Table Talk is a discredited book
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 5:44 am
(January 5, 2017 at 4:29 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: I don't support zionism because, get this, I'm not racist. Zionism is a racist ideology just like Boer apathied and nazism were, in fact what Israel is doing now vis a vis the Palestinians both inside Israel and Palestine is little different to what happened to German jews between 1933 and 1939. You'd think a coutry born out of murderous oppression would be better than that wouldn't you?
Herzl would rotate in his grave if you equate the currrent Israeli government with his idea of Zionism. That was something entirely different. The word is often abused these days. But Herzls idea was deeply secular and bordering on socialism, and certainly not exclusive. The Kibbuzims of the early days followed the idea of sharing everything among themselves. Not to be mistaken with the often religiously motivated settler movement of today.
And it's still a far cry from how the German jews were treated. The latest verdict against an Israeli soldier killing an already wounded Palestinian, proves that the justice system still works and doesn't play favorites. As does the investigation against Netanjahu.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 9:16 am
(January 5, 2017 at 5:44 am)abaris Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 4:29 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: I don't support zionism because, get this, I'm not racist. Zionism is a racist ideology just like Boer apathied and nazism were, in fact what Israel is doing now vis a vis the Palestinians both inside Israel and Palestine is little different to what happened to German jews between 1933 and 1939. You'd think a coutry born out of murderous oppression would be better than that wouldn't you?
Herzl would rotate in his grave if you equate the currrent Israeli government with his idea of Zionism. That was something entirely different. The word is often abused these days. But Herzls idea was deeply secular and bordering on socialism, and certainly not exclusive. The Kibbuzims of the early days followed the idea of sharing everything among themselves. Not to be mistaken with the often religiously motivated settler movement of today.
And it's still a far cry from how the German jews were treated. The latest verdict against an Israeli soldier killing an already wounded Palestinian, proves that the justice system still works and doesn't play favorites. As does the investigation against Netanjahu.
The nazis occasionally prosecuted those of their own who were too obvious in the persecution of the jews. Your man is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the racist punishment meted out to Palestinians for being non-jewish in the "promised" land. The racially and regiously exclusivist state of Israel mirrors pre war nazi Germany in many of the methods in which it treats those it considers undesirable, and would go further if it thought it'd get away with it.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 11:03 am
(January 5, 2017 at 4:29 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: (January 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm)A Theist Wrote: I support Zionism. You don't. You applaud obama's and the UN's assault on Israel. I don't. That would make you the neo nazi.
I'm old enough to remember him too. Can you remember where you were when John F. Kennedy was assassinated?
I don't support zionism because, get this, I'm not racist......
Oh and you didn't answer my queston, when did ye neo-nazis decide ye could ignore Mein Kampf and the Table Talks? It's very hard to follow Titler when you ignore his central thesis.
No. You are racist. You just think too highly of yourself. To boot, you're an intolerant leftist bigot. Anti Semitism, (more to point, and especially, Jew hating, that is), has long historic and cultural roots through out Europe. For Europeans, Aussies, Canadians, etc. to lecture Americans on racism and bigotry need only to look at their own history. You guys haven't changed. As much as you try to disguise it you're all still the bigoted condescending pompousasses you always were. Thumbs up to Britain and Brexit, though. They're moving away from the rest of you dumbasses over there.
Your question wasn't answered because it was stupid, just like the ignorant google educated little shit you are.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 11:07 am
(January 4, 2017 at 5:52 pm)Orochi Wrote: Quote:[url=https://atheistforums.org/post-1480999.html#pid1480999][/url]I support Zionism. You don't. You applaud obama's and the UN's assault on Israel. I don't. That would make you the neo nazi.
1.Ridiculous holding Israeli to internal law and condemning it's criminal actions does not make one a Nazi
2.So you support Zionism which means you support one of the most vile ideologies (and no stop calling it Judaism) in recent history nothing more to say really .
Your just absurd
Minn isn't supporting ANY fuckwad gang wannabes on any side of the sky hero war.
"Isms" are fucking bullshit. Our planet is far older than our species narcissistic tribalism.
You can be for western ideas, without being for individual assholes. Bibi not getting everything he wants, does not mean those against his bullshit want to commit genocide of Israel.
Bibi WANTS a religious based constitution and panders to the same bullshit mentality that causes Christians to say "Christian Nation" here. And that same bullshit attitude caused OUR Christians to provoke Natives to justify expansion.
Bibi is simply another asshole right winger and is NOT good for the western idea of political and religious pluralism.
There were polytheists occupying that same land prior to any of the three religions. I myself simply want ALL THREE go fucking knock it off.
Conservatism isn't protection of any religion, it is old bullshit antiquated tribalism, regardless if it comes from Christians or Muslims and YES JEWS TOO.
The survivors of WW2 Germany were victims, Jewish right wingers are not. Kurdish Christians are victims. Gays in the Middle east are victims, and minority Muslims are victims. But it is utter bullshit to even think, that every single Jew in Israel agrees with Bibi. That would be as much bullshit as to say every American supports Trump.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 11:19 am
(January 5, 2017 at 11:03 am)A Theist Wrote: No. You are racist. You just think too highly of yourself. To boot, you're an intolerant leftist bigot. Anti Semitism, (more to point, and especially, Jew hating, that is), has long historic and cultural roots through out Europe.
My family was on the receiving end of antisemitism. That doesn't change the fact that criticizing the Israeli government for acting like shitstains isn't antisemitism. You just have to look with whom they share their bed to stay in power.
It's a political statement and it doesn't mean every Israeli, let alone every jew, was in cahoots with Netanjahu and cronies and should be criticized or blamed. To say something like that would indeed be antisemitism, but noone does that.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 11:43 am
(January 5, 2017 at 11:19 am)abaris Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 11:03 am)A Theist Wrote: No. You are racist. You just think too highly of yourself. To boot, you're an intolerant leftist bigot. Anti Semitism, (more to point, and especially, Jew hating, that is), has long historic and cultural roots through out Europe.
My family was on the receiving end of antisemitism. That doesn't change the fact that criticizing the Israeli government for acting like shitstains isn't antisemitism. You just have to look with whom they share their bed to stay in power.
It's a political statement and it doesn't mean every Israeli, let alone every jew, was in cahoots with Netanjahu and cronies and should be criticized or blamed. To say something like that would indeed be antisemitism, but noone does that. I also see who they're surrounded by too. Hostile Arab countries who have touted their dedication to wiping Israel off the map. These same Arab countries who abuse, torture, and murder women, Christians, homosexuals, atheists, etc...who don't adhere to their particular brand of islam. But that seems to be okay with the UN and the world community. Only Israel should be condemned. I see. Cowards, for not calling out other nations like Syria, Iran, China, North Korea, and other nations who are far more blatant in committing human rights violations. The UN is a biased and worthless hatemongering organization of murdering nations. The quicker the U.S. defunds them, the better.
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RE: Poor Old Bibi Can't Catch A Break
January 5, 2017 at 12:08 pm
(January 5, 2017 at 11:19 am)abaris Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 11:03 am)A Theist Wrote: No. You are racist. You just think too highly of yourself. To boot, you're an intolerant leftist bigot. Anti Semitism, (more to point, and especially, Jew hating, that is), has long historic and cultural roots through out Europe.
My family was on the receiving end of antisemitism. That doesn't change the fact that criticizing the Israeli government for acting like shitstains isn't antisemitism. You just have to look with whom they share their bed to stay in power.
It's a political statement and it doesn't mean every Israeli, let alone every jew, was in cahoots with Netanjahu and cronies and should be criticized or blamed. To say something like that would indeed be antisemitism, but noone does that.
BINGO! Asshole Bibi not getting everything he wants does not make those who criticize him genocidal maniacs.
Ann Frank was bullied, Bibi is simply a fucking asshole.
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