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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:41 pm
(January 5, 2017 at 10:19 pm)A Theist Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 10:05 pm)Shell B Wrote: What are you even talking about? Just about everybody said they either didn't see it or did and heard the perps say racist shit, making it likely racially motivated. Those who didn't weren't asked to be clearer about it. I called it a hate crime from the moment I entered this thread. I didn't say racially motivated because I figured you didn't need it fucking spelled out for you. Yeah, sure. You called it a hate crime. But go ahead and feel free to spell it out anyway. Was it racially motivated? Not "likely" racially motivated, but "clearly" racially motivated.
Yes it was clearly racially motivated, due to the words they used when attacking the guy. They may have been motivated by his mental disability also, but the investigation will likely determine that.
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:41 pm
(January 5, 2017 at 10:40 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: I realize that "get charged with a hate crime" is a buzz phrase that get bandied about a lot but "hate crime" is a legal term. For a hate crime enhancement, a prosecutor must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime was committed because of the victim's race or sexual orientation, etc which can be difficult to prove.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/res...rimes.html
Everybody in this thread seems to be saying that the crime that was broadcast in this Facebook live video was wicked, any way you slice it. But, frankly, most of the arguing in this thread seems to be of the "I despise hate crimes more than you" nature. Not much different than pounding sand, in my opinion.
Hmm you may have a point 
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:42 pm
(January 5, 2017 at 10:30 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: AT, you're clearly spoiling for a fight. Why is that?
No I'm not. Just one of a few who are merely joining in this discussion. Just because I don't agree with some of the others here doesn't mean I'm trying to pick a fight.
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:43 pm
While you guys have been going back and forth over is it/isn't it, what constitutes, yada-yada............ I've been wondering.
Has anyone notified Sarah Palin yet?
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:43 pm
(January 5, 2017 at 10:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 10:30 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: AT, you're clearly spoiling for a fight. Why is that?
No I'm not. Just one of a few who are merely joining in this discussion. Just because I don't agree with some of the others here doesn't mean I'm trying to pick a fight.
Lol could have fooled us
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:44 pm
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(January 5, 2017 at 10:40 pm)Orochi Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 10:34 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Pool logic:
If I can find an example of one idiot on Twitter, I can extrapolate that to be the argument of everyone I want to debate!
Should we try and find her opposite
Thou she's somewhat right as I said above but yes over all not too bright
But she's wrong. It's clear that what she was intending to say is that black people cannot be racist, which is just flat out wrong.
If anyone here wrote that the definition of a word in a dictionary wasn't valid because a theist wrote it, I would say the same thing. It's just stupidity.
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:45 pm
black people can't be racist towards white people? Lol wtf kind of logic is that lmao
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:45 pm
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(January 5, 2017 at 10:43 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: While you guys have been going back and forth over is it/isn't it, what constitutes, yada-yada............ I've been wondering.
Has anyone notified Sarah Palin yet?
I think we would need to message her by owl
(January 5, 2017 at 10:45 pm)pool the great Wrote: black people can't be racist towards white people? Lol wtf kind of logic is that lmao
Were the hell did I say that?
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 10:50 pm
(January 5, 2017 at 10:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (January 5, 2017 at 10:19 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, sure. You called it a hate crime. But go ahead and feel free to spell it out anyway. Was it racially motivated? Not "likely" racially motivated, but "clearly" racially motivated.
Yes it was clearly racially motivated, due to the words they used when attacking the guy. They may have been motivated by his mental disability also, but the investigation will likely determine that.
Yes. Clearly racially motivated. But I would think his mental disability just made him an easier target for the attack, imo, that is.
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 11:30 pm
It is true some think black people can't be racist because they don't have the power they perceive white people to have. That's where you get the term white priveledge. Some feel they have been so disenfranchised that hatred towards white people is justified, and not racist, but the natural reaction of being oppressed. Of course when you have a group of people who convince an entire group of people they are victims, they start to identify as victims and create a dependency mindset where all problems are blamed on another. It's all bullshit, and a reason I don't like the progressives who peel the scabs off minorities and pour salt in their wounds and promote the idea of identifying as being a victim almost like it's trendy to be self loathing. White liberal progressive women are the most annoying by the way, just saying.
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