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Paul's 500 witnesses.
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RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 3:29 pm
(May 10, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Equating god's decisions with a human's decisions just shows the shallowness of your reasoning.

You could have made the same reply to Cecelia in this thread, but you didn't. Ad hoc much?  Smile
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#122
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 3:41 pm
Cecilia exists.  Your god?  Not so much.
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RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 5:56 pm
(May 10, 2017 at 3:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Cecilia exists.  Your god?  Not so much.

Theists get so upset when you pick on their cosmic sky wizard. And all I can think is, well if he is supposed to be big bad and brawny and can kick our asses, why do they feel the need to defend him? Seems to me a bit hypocritical to feel the need to defend someone who should not need your help.
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RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 5:57 pm (This post was last modified: May 10, 2017 at 5:58 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 7, 2017 at 2:17 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(April 30, 2017 at 7:26 pm)Orochi Wrote: Yup were smarter . better informed .ETC

I'm not sure if humans are actually smarter than our ancestors 2000 years ago. We certainly are much better informed. No doubt about that.

We're definitely better informed and no more or less smarter.

Intelligence is innate.

I'm no smarter than I was when I was a little kid. I just learned stuff.
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RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 6:06 pm
(May 10, 2017 at 5:57 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(May 7, 2017 at 2:17 pm)KUSA Wrote: I'm not sure if humans are actually smarter than our ancestors 2000 years ago. We certainly are much better informed. No doubt about that.

We're definitely better informed and no more or less smarter.

Intelligence is innate.

I'm no smarter than I was when I was a little kid. I just learned stuff.

That made no sense. If you are born healthy your brain is constantly building new neurological pathways as you grow to an adult. A newborn cannot suddenly be as smart as an adult. If your brain didn't grow as you did you would not be able to learn things. 

Intelligence is an evolutionary attribute, it is our species ability to be curious, but that does not make a newborn as in individual having the ability to adapt to all information and understand it at birth. Learning takes time, you don't have adult knowledge as an infant.
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#126
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 6:07 pm
(May 10, 2017 at 6:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: That made no sense. If you are born healthy your brain is constantly building new neurological pathways as you grow to an adult. A newborn cannot suddenly be as smart as an adult. If your brain didn't grow as you did you would not be able to learn things. 

Intelligence is an evolutionary attribute, it is our species ability to be curious, but that does not make a newborn as in individual having the ability to adapt to all information and understand it at birth. Learning takes time, you don't have adult knowledge as an infant.

I think he is referring to the I.Q., which does not change.
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RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm
um . . .


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#128
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 6:18 pm
(May 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: um . . .


it can drop


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Maybe under the influence of heavy drugs and/or alcohol, but typically it does not change.
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#129
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 6:24 pm
(May 10, 2017 at 6:18 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(May 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: um . . .


it can drop


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Maybe under the influence of heavy drugs and/or alcohol, but typically it does not change.

You haven't sat through a Ken Ham or Ray Comfort video, have you.

Granted, in most people IQ recovers after such a traumatic experience, but for some...

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RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
May 10, 2017 at 6:27 pm (This post was last modified: May 10, 2017 at 6:28 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 10, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(May 10, 2017 at 6:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: That made no sense. If you are born healthy your brain is constantly building new neurological pathways as you grow to an adult. A newborn cannot suddenly be as smart as an adult. If your brain didn't grow as you did you would not be able to learn things. 

Intelligence is an evolutionary attribute, it is our species ability to be curious, but that does not make a newborn as in individual having the ability to adapt to all information and understand it at birth. Learning takes time, you don't have adult knowledge as an infant.

I think he is referring to the I.Q., which does not change.

No... I don't think I.Q. is an accurate measure of intelligence because it's too narrow.

I define intelligence to be an individual's maximum capacity for understanding and comprehension.

So when you're born... your intelligence is the potential of your brain... not your brain's current state.

Dumb people are never capable of understanding certain things. Intelligent children are just as intelligent as they will be when they're adults... their brain just hasn't developed yet. To say they're less intelligent just because their brain hasn't developed yet makes no sense to me. Their intelligence is relative to their age anyhow.
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