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FBI director James Comey fired
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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 14, 2017 at 5:05 pm
Proportional representation isn't the correct election system for when you want a single winner either.

You need something like AV or STV or Range Voting.
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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 14, 2017 at 5:07 pm
(May 14, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I don't think you seem to understand, if our current crop of morons in Congress had the founders in hand you'd know Trump is the type of asshole the founders had in mind when they came up with the EC.

The electors are supposed to be independent from both the congress and the voters, and if they had understood how nuts Trump was, they DID have the option of saying "NO" even though the voters spoke. The EC was supposed to prevent the rise of tyranny. Now it still is only 1 tool, we also have power of impeachment, and under no circumstance in any case can Trump do more than 8 years, he still has to run again 2020. 

I would leave it alone, but tweak federal law that after a certain amount the districts cannot get lopsided. I'd also get a Dem president in 2020 to balance the SCOTUS and get rid of Citizens United. 

If you are going to say that no system is perfect and I agree, then this changes nothing for me and you still have not offered up a thing in any case.

You are doing nothing more than making excuses for an incompetent Electoral College having elected a veritable crazy man who everyone saw as unstable during the long election process.
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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 14, 2017 at 5:23 pm
(May 14, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(May 14, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I don't think you seem to understand, if our current crop of morons in Congress had the founders in hand you'd know Trump is the type of asshole the founders had in mind when they came up with the EC.

The electors are supposed to be independent from both the congress and the voters, and if they had understood how nuts Trump was, they DID have the option of saying "NO" even though the voters spoke. The EC was supposed to prevent the rise of tyranny. Now it still is only 1 tool, we also have power of impeachment, and under no circumstance in any case can Trump do more than 8 years, he still has to run again 2020. 

I would leave it alone, but tweak federal law that after a certain amount the districts cannot get lopsided. I'd also get a Dem president in 2020 to balance the SCOTUS and get rid of Citizens United. 

If you are going to say that no system is perfect and I agree, then this changes nothing for me and you still have not offered up a thing in any case.

You are doing nothing more than making excuses for an incompetent Electoral College having elected a veritable crazy man who everyone saw as unstable during the long election process.

Again fine, offer something otherwise admit you don't have anything yourself.
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#54
RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 14, 2017 at 5:28 pm
(May 14, 2017 at 5:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Again fine, offer something otherwise admit you don't have anything yourself.

Perhaps I should have referenced ABBA to make you understand what I was conveying.
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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 14, 2017 at 5:59 pm
This thread, I'm sorry to say, is the definition of liberal bubble.
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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 15, 2017 at 2:08 pm
(May 14, 2017 at 5:28 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(May 14, 2017 at 5:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Again fine, offer something otherwise admit you don't have anything yourself.

Perhaps I should have referenced ABBA to make you understand what I was conveying.

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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 17, 2017 at 1:52 am
(May 14, 2017 at 5:59 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: This thread, I'm sorry to say, is the definition of liberal bubble.

But don't you see? The electoral college protects us from people like Trump! That's why we have to keep it - and simultaneously reduce the value of a vote in populous areas!

Wait what?
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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 17, 2017 at 2:12 am
(May 14, 2017 at 5:05 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Proportional representation isn't the correct election system for when you want a single winner either.

You need something like AV or STV or Range Voting.

The first trick is to get them to vote at all.

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RE: FBI director James Comey fired
May 17, 2017 at 2:30 am (This post was last modified: May 17, 2017 at 2:32 am by Amarok.)
Cling to broken system that seems to be brains solution
Quote:This thread, I'm sorry to say, is the definition of liberal bubble.

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