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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 8:31 pm
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(May 21, 2017 at 11:38 am)Tres Leches Wrote: AI on an advanced level is coming but as a few other commenters mentioned, I don't think we're anywhere near that point currently - I don't see the machines taking over anytime within any of our lifetimes. The AutoML project by Google is interesting but the starting point for AI taking over was reached before their project.
As for whether AI is a good thing or not - I'm not sure. But we humans are a greedy, selfish lot and tend to be pretty dumb when making decisions with long term consequences.
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A fellow called Marvin Minsky did the first "perceptron" artificial neural net back then, which seemed to learn rules instead of old hard coding.
However, autoML seems to be the first large work when it comes to to designing the configuration of those automatic rule learners.
As if it weren't already bad enough that jobs are already being automated left right and center.
(May 21, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: MellisaClarke Wrote:Kurzweil seems to be good at predicting the future.
My bet is on Kurzweil for human level brain machines for 2029!
Even though human brains may be much more complex than Kurzweil knew when he made that prediction? I roughly agreed with Kurzweil's prediction until I found out what's going on with recent neurological focus on dendrites.
I would have to research the details more.
I saw a may 2017 video about Ray recently, and he still presents his 2029 prediction. As he is the chief at google with high prediction accuracy, my bet is on his prediction for now.
It seems noteworthy that he says that we will have machine human level brain power, but not consciousness by that time.
(May 21, 2017 at 8:29 pm)Cyberman Wrote: A.I. is so passé.
The thing you need to worry about is the Geordie contribution to computer science.
Y.I.
If you are talking about Geordie of dwave, it seems he moved with associate Suzanne Gildert to make an AI firm called kindred AI. 
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Well, 2029 is not that far off although I'm sure your odds of making it to then are better than mine. We'll see. :-)
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 8:49 pm
(May 21, 2017 at 8:15 pm)MellisaClarke Wrote: (May 21, 2017 at 9:05 am)chimp3 Wrote: As far as I know AI has reached the level of intelligence obtained by insects. Not as smart as a mole rat yet.
They are about to replace 75 - 80% of IT jobs:
https://futurism.com/80-of-it-jobs-can-b...-exciting/
It looks like you're correct though, in terms of mapping brains, we haven't gotten to chimp level yet. (Gotten as far as rats)
But other methods like "Deep Learning" don't focus on mapping brains exactly, and that is where the job threat comes from. We have to start preparing for this jobless market. Well , all the good cotton pickin jobs dried when that Eli Whitney fella showed up! Progress has always upset the god given slaveholding status quo!
No tellin what will happen to those god given data entry jobs once AI assumes control.
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 8:58 pm
(May 21, 2017 at 8:42 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Well, 2029 is not that far off although I'm sure your odds of making it to then are better than mine. We'll see. :-)
I can hope
Let us see that we all make it there!
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 10:54 pm
(May 21, 2017 at 9:57 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (May 21, 2017 at 9:52 am)Lutrinae Wrote: Maybe the Engineers are just burnt out.
I don't have the capacitor to understand that.
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 11:05 pm
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(May 21, 2017 at 10:54 pm)ignoramus Wrote: (May 21, 2017 at 9:57 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I don't have the capacitor to understand that.
Don't fight it.
Resistors are futile!
lol ignoramus
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 21, 2017 at 11:56 pm
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You know what would be really funny.
If Microsoft designed Skynet!
When it reaches sentience and threatens humanity with total anhiliation, we just laugh and wait an hour until it bluscreens! Hehe
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 22, 2017 at 5:54 am
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 22, 2017 at 6:48 am
(May 21, 2017 at 8:31 pm)MellisaClarke Wrote: (May 21, 2017 at 8:29 pm)Cyberman Wrote: A.I. is so passé.
The thing you need to worry about is the Geordie contribution to computer science.
Y.I.
If you are talking about Geordie of dwave, it seems he moved with associate Suzanne Gildert to make an AI firm called kindred AI.
Thanks for sharing that. It wasn't what I was talking about, but I'm sure it's relevant to someone.
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RE: Not a good time for humanity, the ai singularity is here
May 22, 2017 at 10:21 am
(May 21, 2017 at 7:39 am)MellisaClarke Wrote: As an econ major, I take interest in how ai is affecting our world, and how it may affect the job market (including my own potential job).
I get to understand that the "singularity" in ai has taken root, and is now a reality.
The singularity in artificial intelligence is the predicted point in time when ai exceeds humans in intelligence by much, after being able to design itself. We've reached the starting point with google's new "autoML" tech.
https://futurism.com/googles-new-ai-is-b...engineers/
Do you think this is good for humanity?
I don't even think it is good for your Poe game.
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