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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 3:21 am
(August 25, 2017 at 6:43 am)budsa11 Wrote: Don't know where to put this is i'll try here...
Time is an interesting subject, although i think we have forgotten time is man made. The only reason we have "days" day and night, is that the earth orbits the sun.
Technically, i no the Sun does not orbit Earth, the Sun and all the planets are orbiting around the center of mass of the solar system.
But you get my point, seconds, minuets, hours, days, where created by man for our very own convenience and everyday lives, but in actual fact we are in only one constant that is now. No tomorrow no yesterday only the ever expansion of the universe.
So how does that define us? i guess the statement "you are old as old as you feel hold some weight"
I look at time as tool for measuring, time was invented by man as a means of measurement and nothing more. When did time gain magical powers?.
Time is a very handy tool, but people have to remember, MATH IS NOT REALITY!. Math is a tool like a mile or liter etc. Time is in the same category as all other measurements, they don’t exert a force on the physical world.
so with this being said, does this make time travel impossible? as i see lately the idea seems to be gaining traction.
i am not inserting a truth claim here, this is just my personal opinion, i just want to see what people think....
We are currently moving through time at the rate of one second per second.
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 3:25 am
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^^ Alex K thanks, and great comment, its comments like that is the reason i started this thread, learning is fun. xD
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 6:27 am
Consider two clocks, one close to a gravity source and the other further away. At first they are perfectly synchronised, but the gravitational effects will cause time as experienced by clock A to run more slowly, relative to B. The stronger the gravity, the more pronounced the effect. Eventually both clocks will be registering different readings, while experiencing their own time frame perfectly normally. This isn't just some idle speculation; it's been confirmed experimentally.
If time doesn't exist, there'd be no difference between the two clocks.
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 6:48 am
The same effect occurs if one clock is stationary and the other is moving at a great speed.
So yeah, if you're travelling at the speed of light then time wouldn't exist.
I love that theory, though I understand it's not taken too seriously, that there is only one electron in the whole universe, hence the reason they are all identical.
We are all connected. :-)
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 8:08 am
A somewhat more compelling disproof of time travel might be the party Stephen Hawking threw for time travellers back in 2012, and nobody showed up.
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 8:21 am
(August 26, 2017 at 6:27 am)Cyberman Wrote: Consider two clocks, one close to a gravity source and the other further away. At first they are perfectly synchronised, but the gravitational effects will cause time as experienced by clock A to run more slowly, relative to B. The stronger the gravity, the more pronounced the effect. Eventually both clocks will be registering different readings, while experiencing their own time frame perfectly normally. This isn't just some idle speculation; it's been confirmed experimentally.
If time doesn't exist, there'd be no difference between the two clocks.
We can do that with precise atomic clocks. We synch them. You go up to the top of Everest, I stay at the bottom smoking ganja, with the other clock
You might just narrow the age difference between us ol'chap.
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 8:35 am
Good idea, I could do with catching up to you 
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 8:38 am
(August 26, 2017 at 8:35 am)Cyberman Wrote: Good idea, I could do with catching up to you
Would you be you slowing down, or would it be me going faster?
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 9:02 am
(August 25, 2017 at 6:43 am)budsa11 Wrote: But you get my point, seconds, minuets, hours, days, where created by man for our very own convenience and everyday lives, but in actual fact we are in only one constant that is now. No tomorrow no yesterday only the ever expansion of the universe.
"Now" probably has even more to do with our perspective than does the passage of time. In our first person perspective we always find ourselves in a now, though our focus can well be on getting to a later event A.S.A.P. We infer the passage of time from the many prior events we've experienced. But events are only intelligible at all as sequences. Time is real enough, as real as "space".
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RE: Is time travel Impossible Because time Doesn't Exist?
August 26, 2017 at 10:50 am
(August 26, 2017 at 8:08 am)Cyberman Wrote: A somewhat more compelling disproof of time travel might be the party Stephen Hawking threw for time travellers back in 2012, and nobody showed up.
They might have done, but in their ultra advanced invisibility suits.
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