Real russian colusion

[Mister Agenda]

http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-clint...ump-688592

The conflict of interest is pretty undeniable.  Drich overstates it as partisan people are wont to do, which is silly, because the actual truth is pretty egregious.

What do you think she did in this case that was different from what she did in every other committee decision (i.e., nothing)? And did I mention that the committee does not approve or deny such sales, they just present their findings to the president? And that the Russians didn't get any uranium?

[Drich]

Old Fake News.  The story was debunked before it ever ran, got debunked after it ran, and is now being regurgitated by trump and his trumpkins to deflect from trump and his trumpkins being a bunch of a sad losers who can't get right.

Actually this is based off of FBI documents obtained by independent journalists that show money being tracked fro russia to the Clinton and obama squashing the investigation. While the allegations are old 2010 we have proof now. Both Trump and Hannity go into deeper detail about this story, because faker newers wont even pick it up

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I'll just speak to the 'uranium sale' since I know a bit about that topic. No uranium was sold to Russia. A Russian company bought a Canadian company that mines uranium. The Russians don't get the uranium that company mines, they get some of the profits. Because the company being bought is involved in uranium mining, the acquisition of 51% of the Canadian/South African company's shares required approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (because the company owns uranium mines in the USA), and the US Secretary of State is on that committee. Clinton was just one member of that committee with no veto power, so she did not have the power to alone approve or deny the sale. The Secretary of the Treasury (Timothy Geithner) was the chairperson, not Clinton. The committee evaluates foreign investment with possible national security issues, and turns the findings over to the president, the committee itself can't approve or disapprove a deal. According to the State Dept. representative who stood for her in the committee, Clinton never interfered with committee decisions.

So the Russians didn't get any uranium and the decision wasn't Clinton's to make. I assume the rest of your information is equally accurate.

apparently you do not know as much about the sale of uranium as you were boasting about.. Either that or the NYtimes got it wrong:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca...mpany.html

right there in the title it explicitly states that russian pressed for control of this uranium 1 and opened the flood gates of money to the clintons (then sectary of state who indeed have final say on the matter.

The next article goes into some more detail about the new evidence and clinton's role/responsibility in this deal as secretary of state.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...-deal.html

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I'll just speak to the 'uranium sale' since I know a bit about that topic. No uranium was sold to Russia. A Russian company bought a Canadian company that mines uranium. The Russians don't get the uranium that company mines, they get some of the profits. Because the company being bought is involved in uranium mining, the acquisition of 51% of the Canadian/South African company's shares required approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (because the company owns uranium mines in the USA), and the US Secretary of State is on that committee. Clinton was just one member of that committee with no veto power, so she did not have the power to alone approve or deny the sale. The Secretary of the Treasury (Timothy Geithner) was the chairperson, not Clinton. The committee evaluates foreign investment with possible national security issues, and turns the findings over to the president, the committee itself can't approve or disapprove a deal. According to the State Dept. representative who stood for her in the committee, Clinton never interfered with committee decisions.

So the Russians didn't get any uranium and the decision wasn't Clinton's to make. I assume the rest of your information is equally accurate.

http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-clint...ump-688592

The conflict of interest is pretty undeniable.  Drich overstates it as partisan people are wont to do, which is silly, because the actual truth is pretty egregious.

how did I over state? i said clinton received over 1,000,000 dollars when in fact it was 145 million... that would be an understatement sport.

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I expect him to march on orders from the Kremlin, at this point.

well thankfully comrade clinton is not in office meaning we do not have to march to orders from puttin.

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http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/17/ha...nald-trump

Seems the clinton foundation received over 1,000,000 dollars in "speaking fees" in return Clinton as secretary of state sold or approved the sale of uranium to the Russians. not just a literal boat load but a percentage of everything the US had. Not only did Obama know of this he squashed any investigations into this deal by the department.

So the fake news seem to have it half right, there was governmental collusion, just accusing the wrong administration.

Every part of that is wrong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/do..._hp_ref=uk

The falsehood remains a favourite of right-wing and conspiratorial websites who conveniently ignore that:

• Clinton did not have veto power over the deal as she was one of nine people involved on the panel that deals with such decisions
  
• Clinton may not have even been involved in the decision-making process as she “never intervened” on such matters
  
• Any uranium could not and has not been exported or given to Russia as it remains under the control of American subsidiaries, as stated by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
  
• Of the $145 million, most of it, $131.3 million, came from Frank Giustra who sold of his entire stake in Uranium One in 2007, 18 months before Clinton became Secretary of State and three years before the Russia deal
  

please the huffy post is fake news even to you lefties.. I also quote the nytime which trump is not a fan, and they supported the fox news article as well as did the washington post. and the news week fact check also places clinton as SS when she received her money (which was posted by one of uses guys)

[The Grand Nudger]

Actually this is based off of FBI documents obtained by independent journalists that show money being tracked fro russia to the Clinton and obama squashing the investigation. While the allegations are old 2010 we have proof now. Both Trump and Hannity go into deeper detail about this story, because faker newers wont even pick it up

No, Drich, it's based off a book called Clinton Cash...the author of which declined to validate the story even when he went on Faux to peddle it.   You;re babbling about fake news not picking it up, but in the same post above you go on to show that other news organs -did- pick it up..although you either decline to mention or fail to realize that in each case the publishers refered to an "exclusive agreement with the author"..mystifying, given how promiscuous the story seemed to become. It was advertising for a book that would boost ratings regardless of it's truth or which network presented it to whom, simpleton.

well thankfully comrade clinton is not in office meaning we do not have to march to orders from puttin.

Dah Comrade! This is why russian collusion worked. You're too dense -not- to open your mouth with glee and let them piss down your throat.

They had their fingers on your pulse, they know you better than you know yourself...apparently.

[Drich]

http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-clint...ump-688592

The conflict of interest is pretty undeniable.  Drich overstates it as partisan people are wont to do, which is silly, because the actual truth is pretty egregious.

What do you think she did in this case that was different from what she did in every other committee decision (i.e., nothing)? And did I mention that the committee does not approve or deny such sales, they just present their findings to the president? And that the Russians didn't get any uranium?

their job as a commit is to make an informed recommendation to what is in the best interest of this country. do you think Clinton was acting in the best intrest of this country after cashing in on 145 million dollars from russia?

Not to mention, the left has been head hunting for scraps of involvement between trump and russia. Here you have 145 million dollars going to clinton's personal scrouge mcduck style vault where I'm sure she swam naked in it! and the story has yet to hit the evening news!

So when you are informed rather than outrage, you a-holes are making excuses. The point is there was real russian collusion but it was between clinton and obama (Obama was the man who covered up an FBI probe into the situation) that's the part what makes this all so damning. How can any of you go after trump for a year find nothing, then when real truth shows your golden girl to be the rat in the room you circle the wagons?

racists! Hypocrits, nazis choose carfully, because your normal goto panic conversation stop key words won't work here. Why? because Clinto genuinuly is the evil she and the left/fake news was trying to make trump out to be!

Do you see how foolish pop morality has made you? it forces you to take her side for selling out this country's uranium intrests for the sake of allowing perverted men into the lady's bathroom..

Now tell me the truth it make you more angery that I called a transsexual a male pervert, than the idea of arguably the second most powerful person in the united states selling out this whole country's nuclear intrest for personal gain to the tune of 145 million dollars... Do you see how stupid that makes people like you? You would make excuses and over look the literal future of this whole country power production and or it's future ablity to defend itself, just because your pop values has you place putting a male in a female's bathroom, or because trump had the balls to say mexico (the government) is sending people over the boarder and they are not sending the best and brightest. that when mexico sends people here illegally they are sending the dreggs/rapists and murders.

It is crazy for me to think anyone in their right mind would willfully choose someone who sold this country out for personal gain could EVER be considered as a potential POTUS just because they placate your f-ed up system of pop morality FIRST... Just so long as christians are forced to bake gay wedding cakes then what the hell it is ok for our president to be known to have taken money from our enmeys... or so says the media about russia when trump was suppsedly taking help from russia (not 145 million dollars but campaign advise)

take away god... pop morality is all you have left. I hope some of you can see how easily manipulable it makes you when you follow that doctrine. you are mandated to forgive all kinda of evils so long as the evils the society wants are unquestioned.

[The Grand Nudger]

Maybe, and I know this is going to sound crazy...but just maybe your idiocy in this regard has nothing whatsoever to do with your god idiocy, or whatever dissatisfaction with "pop morality" you have...which appears to chiefly be that people call you a racist shitweasel for being a racist shitweasel.

Boohoo snowflake, you get called painfully accurate names.....so you hand the country over to the kremlin...? When they feed you disinformation explicitly to fuck you over you ask for a second scoop..just like your new god Donny?

You're a traitor and a disgrace...to your god, your country, even to yourself. Now scurry off and find another way to sell out because your feelings are hurt.

[Brian37]

Maybe, and I know this is going to sound crazy...but just maybe your idiocy in this regard has nothing whatsoever to do with your god idiocy, or whatever dissatisfaction with "pop morality" you have...which appears to chiefly be that people call you a racist shitweasel for being a racist shitweasel.

Boohoo snowflake, you get called painfully accurate names.....so you hand the country over to the kremlin...?  When they feed you disinformation explicitly to fuck you over you ask for a second scoop..just like your new god Donny?

You're a traitor and a disgrace...to your god, your country, even to yourself.  Now scurry off and find another way to sell out because your feelings are hurt.

His dear leader heaped tons of praise on dictators like Putin and Un during his run. Now Putin has gone on his state media and worldwide telling Americans not to pick on Mien Drumpf. 

Seems to me if  anyone wants to label someone a "comrade" they better take into account that Putin was a former KGB agent. McCain rightfully called Putin a murderer and KGB thug. Humn, cant blame that comment on us liberals, that came from a republican. The same vet 45 is still shitting on today. 

Yep, I agree, poor 45 supporters cant handle blasphemy or criticism.

[Mister Agenda]

take away god... pop morality is all you have left. I hope some of you can see how easily manipulable it makes you when you follow that doctrine. you are mandated to forgive all kinda of evils so long as the evils the society wants are unquestioned.

How exactly does a deal that doesn't end in Russia gaining any uranium a detriment to our national security?

[henryp]

http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-clint...ump-688592

The conflict of interest is pretty undeniable.  Drich overstates it as partisan people are wont to do, which is silly, because the actual truth is pretty egregious.

What do you think she did in this case that was different from what she did in every other committee decision (i.e., nothing)? And did I mention that the committee does not approve or deny such sales, they just present their findings to the president? And that the Russians didn't get any uranium?

You're arguing against Drich's point.  Not mine.  I'm saying it's a blatant conflict of interest to give millions to the Clintons just as this is coming up for review.  It's shady as fuck, and the Clintons did it all the time.  Taking large sums of foreign money from people who have a vested interest in Hillary's decisions as secretary of state, and presumably as the future 45th president.  We'll never know what the donors got or thought they got from the money.  That's the beauty of the system for the politicians raking in the cash.


To Drich: You're guessing at what influence the donations bought, if any. That's what you're overstating. But where I'm with you, and Bernie said this during the primaries, corporations aren't cutting huge checks to politicians out of kindness.

[Anomalocaris]

take away god... pop morality is all you have left. I hope some of you can see how easily manipulable it makes you when you follow that doctrine. you are mandated to forgive all kinda of evils so long as the evils the society wants are unquestioned.

How exactly does a deal that doesn't end in Russia gaining any uranium a detriment to our national security?

Morality of god is pop morality of the worst sort.  God does not exist and his morality is what is attributed to him by the most Contemptible, overreaching, uneducated, unsympathetic, lying, self-righteous, superstitious, egotistical, and gullible portion of the population, the only portion of the population amongst which a Contemptible, overreaching, uneducated, unsympathetic, lying, self-righteous, superstitious, egotistical, and gullible drich can feel at home, while pretending he is not Contemptible, overreaching, uneducated, unsympathetic, lying, self-righteous, superstitious, egotistical, and gullible.

Just look at the morality of the naked Donald Trump, that is the pop morality that animate the Christian and their “god”

[Mister Agenda]

Not to mention the 13 agencies that had to approve the deal before it got to the committee Clinton's undersecretary sat on. The final recommendation to the president was utterly and profoundly routine.