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How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
#71
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
Was a Christian, but never really paid much attention to the bible. (Or in church for that matter... when I went, I found it all very boring)

What I take from the parable is that God is a psychopath who isn't satisfied unless you do everything he says.  I mean take that the king kills those who don't come, and then still punishes the guy who comes, but isn't wearing a suit.  He's a king who is nothing more than a ruthless dictator, and the world would be better off overthrowing him than worshiping at his feet.

One can easily take from this parable that we should aim to destroy god.  That Satan is the only way to salvation.
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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#72
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
(October 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(October 24, 2017 at 7:18 am)mh.brewer Wrote:


You have lost your mind. I do believe in the 7 day week God created and that in 6 of those days He created everything in the universe perfectly. As for the 6000 years I'm sightly flexible on those because we have no idea how long Adam and eve lived in the Garden of Eden, however after the fall I do believe in the 6000 year age.

(October 24, 2017 at 10:54 am)drfuzzy Wrote:

 
  I wasn't good in English classes, mainly because of the poor teachers I had, I'm glad today's teachers are doing a better job. I want lay it all on the teachers though sports were more important than to properly construct a sentence. I do the best I can, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be enough to satisfy people here, my lack of proper sentence structure and spelling is why I do not criticize others for their mistakes and mostly ignore the criticism thrown my way. Congratulations on being so accomplished .

GC
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I have cousins that didn't graduate from high school, GC.  I don't think of them as stupid.  They stayed on the farm and didn't need no' larnin'.  That, of course, makes an academic sigh and wonder just what they could have accomplished with more education.  
    I have corrected spelling on a post or two here.  I regret it.  That's no way to hold a respectful discussion.  We have people here for whom English is a second or third language.

But the creationist assertion above is an example of what will make most people here assume that you did not graduate from high school.  This, not your fractured writing, is the example of profound, deliberate, blinkered ignorance.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#73
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
(October 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You have lost your mind. I do believe in the 7 day week God created and that in 6 of those days He created everything in the universe perfectly. As for the 6000 years I'm sightly flexible on those because we have no idea how long Adam and eve lived in the Garden of Eden, however after the fall I do believe in the 6000 year age.


Yeah, they're the one who has lost his mind.  You're hilarious.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#74
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
If it takes him five days to create one planet, how can you believe he could create the rest of the universe in one day. Given a later verse about the stars being knocked out of the sky, and falling to earth, it's pretty obvious the authors of the book didn't realize what stars actually were. Much less that there were other planets in other solar systems.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#75
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
(October 26, 2017 at 11:04 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
(October 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You have lost your mind. I do believe in the 7 day week God created and that in 6 of those days He created everything in the universe perfectly. As for the 6000 years I'm sightly flexible on those because we have no idea how long Adam and eve lived in the Garden of Eden, however after the fall I do believe in the 6000 year age.

(October 24, 2017 at 10:54 am)drfuzzy Wrote:

 
  I wasn't good in English classes, mainly because of the poor teachers I had, I'm glad today's teachers are doing a better job. I want lay it all on the teachers though sports were more important than to properly construct a sentence. I do the best I can, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be enough to satisfy people here, my lack of proper sentence structure and spelling is why I do not criticize others for their mistakes and mostly ignore the criticism thrown my way. Congratulations on being so accomplished .

GC

I have cousins that didn't graduate from high school, GC.  I don't think of them as stupid.  They stayed on the farm and didn't need no' larnin'.  That, of course, makes an academic sigh and wonder just what they could have accomplished with more education.  
    I have corrected spelling on a post or two here.  I regret it.  That's no way to hold a respectful discussion.  We have people here for whom English is a second or third language.

But the creationist assertion above is an example of what will make most people here assume that you did not graduate from high school.  This, not your fractured writing, is the example of profound, deliberate, blinkered ignorance.
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 When some people here can't give reasonable answers to my post they will start picking on my writing and spelling, over the years I have observed this and now know that they can't answer my post with reasonable thought. I'm good with my hand and have always used them, I now build furniture and was a top heating and air tech for many years, actually train myself to be one.

As for what I stated about creation I find it valid and evolutionary science lacking so my thoughts about those who believe it could be the same as theirs about me. I really couldn't care less what others think about what I believe.

GC

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#76
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
Quote:Godscreated Wrote: You have lost your mind. I do believe in the 7 day week God created and that in 6 of those days He created everything in the universe perfectly.

Yep.  You are a self-confessed fucking idiot.
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#77
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
(October 26, 2017 at 7:26 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(October 26, 2017 at 11:04 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
 
  I wasn't good in English classes, mainly because of the poor teachers I had, I'm glad today's teachers are doing a better job. I want lay it all on the teachers though sports were more important than to properly construct a sentence. I do the best I can, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be enough to satisfy people here, my lack of proper sentence structure and spelling is why I do not criticize others for their mistakes and mostly ignore the criticism thrown my way. Congratulations on being so accomplished .

GC

I have cousins that didn't graduate from high school, GC.  I don't think of them as stupid.  They stayed on the farm and didn't need no' larnin'.  That, of course, makes an academic sigh and wonder just what they could have accomplished with more education.  
    I have corrected spelling on a post or two here.  I regret it.  That's no way to hold a respectful discussion.  We have people here for whom English is a second or third language.

But the creationist assertion above is an example of what will make most people here assume that you did not graduate from high school.  This, not your fractured writing, is the example of profound, deliberate, blinkered ignorance.

 When some people here can't give reasonable answers to my post they will start picking on my writing and spelling, over the years I have observed this and now know that they can't answer my post with reasonable thought. I'm good with my hand and have always used them, I now build furniture and was a top heating and air tech for many years, actually train myself to be one.

As for what I stated about creation I find it valid and evolutionary science lacking so my thoughts about those who believe it could be the same as theirs about me. I really couldn't care less what others think about what I believe.

GC

GC
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Congratulations on your carpentry skills and heating/cooling skills.  Very needed.  My immigrant ancestor was sent to America by Lord Baltimore to do carpentry finishing work on some of his properties.  I brag that I come from a long line of craftsmen.

As for evolutionary science, if you took a college course on evolution instead of reading articles on creationist sites, you would have better information.  The objections to evolution have been completely and utterly debunked, and there are many people here who could teach courses on the topic.  Posting such assertions here is about as effective as preaching flat-earth theories to geoscientists and cosmologists.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#78
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
(October 27, 2017 at 10:04 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
(October 26, 2017 at 7:26 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I have cousins that didn't graduate from high school, GC.  I don't think of them as stupid.  They stayed on the farm and didn't need no' larnin'.  That, of course, makes an academic sigh and wonder just what they could have accomplished with more education.  
    I have corrected spelling on a post or two here.  I regret it.  That's no way to hold a respectful discussion.  We have people here for whom English is a second or third language.

But the creationist assertion above is an example of what will make most people here assume that you did not graduate from high school.  This, not your fractured writing, is the example of profound, deliberate, blinkered ignorance.

 When some people here can't give reasonable answers to my post they will start picking on my writing and spelling, over the years I have observed this and now know that they can't answer my post with reasonable thought. I'm good with my hand and have always used them, I now build furniture and was a top heating and air tech for many years, actually train myself to be one.

As for what I stated about creation I find it valid and evolutionary science lacking so my thoughts about those who believe it could be the same as theirs about me. I really couldn't care less what others think about what I believe.

GC

GC

Congratulations on your carpentry skills and heating/cooling skills.  Very needed.  My immigrant ancestor was sent to America by Lord Baltimore to do carpentry finishing work on some of his properties.  I brag that I come from a long line of craftsmen.[/quote] 

Thank you, do you have any of the skills that your ancestors had. I see furniture building as an art form as much as anything else.

drfuzzy Wrote:As for evolutionary science, if you took a college course on evolution instead of reading articles on creationist sites, you would have better information.  The objections to evolution have been completely and utterly debunked, and there are many people here who could teach courses on the topic.  Posting such assertions here is about as effective as preaching flat-earth theories to geoscientists and cosmologists.

No they have not and just because I study the writings of creation scientist doesn't mean I'm not studying from the uneducated. These scientist have PHD's and the creation ministries hire from many secular universities. Creation science doesn't believe in flat earth theory and most say that Christians that do not study the sciences are just hurting Christianity by speaking about what they do not know. Without DNA being able to produce new information naturally evolution can not happen, sorry if you can't accept this but it's true. 
Have a good weekend.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#79
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
(October 28, 2017 at 12:42 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(October 27, 2017 at 10:04 am)drfuzzy Wrote:  



 




drfuzzy Wrote:


No they have not and just because I study the writings of creation scientist doesn't mean I'm not studying from the uneducated. These scientist have PHD's and the creation ministries hire from many secular universities. Creation science doesn't believe in flat earth theory and most say that Christians that do not study the sciences are just hurting Christianity by speaking about what they do not know. Without DNA being able to produce new information naturally evolution can not happen, sorry if you can't accept this but it's true. 
Have a good weekend.

GC
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Wow.  That has got to be one of the most ignorant statements I have read on any forum.  Next he'll be saying he's a disciple of Ken Ham and Kent Hovind.  Maybe that's the problem, GC?  You read Hovind's so-called "dissertation"?   It's so bad it probably destroys brain cells.  Of course, it's clear why anyone who is advocating for a literal reading of the Bible is frantically anti-evolution.  

I'm not going to waste my time arguing why that statement would be hilarious to a relatively bright 10-year-old . . . someone else can take this one.  

But just in case GC is interested in actually learning some real facts, here's a good book for 8th graders: 
https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Eyewitn...c772d35b24

And a REAL scientific response to creationist from Scientific American - one of the best magazines ever created, science explained in real English, woo-hoo! :
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...eationist/

But you won't study, will you, GC?  You're too afraid that it will make the sky fairy mad and he'll fry you forever doubting.

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#80
RE: How do atheists see Jesus' parables?
drfuzzy Wrote:As for evolutionary science, if you took a college course on evolution instead of reading articles on creationist sites, you would have better information.  The objections to evolution have been completely and utterly debunked, and there are many people here who could teach courses on the topic.  Posting such assertions here is about as effective as preaching flat-earth theories to geoscientists and cosmologists.

No they have not and just because I study the writings of creation scientist doesn't mean I'm not studying from the uneducated. These scientist have PHD's and the creation ministries hire from many secular universities. Creation science doesn't believe in flat earth theory and most say that Christians that do not study the sciences are just hurting Christianity by speaking about what they do not know. Without DNA being able to produce new information naturally evolution can not happen, sorry if you can't accept this but it's true. 
Have a good weekend.

GC
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I have a PhD from The Universal Life Church.  Cost me fifty bucks.  I also have a D.D.  I would like to see what "secular universities" these PhDs come from.  And don't tell us what is true about evolution; you've shown your ignorance of the subject too many times.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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