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Another mass shooting.....
RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 4:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 10:14 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:


Why do you show us a biased graph, from a biased source?


Try this:
[Image: UK-Firearm-Homicide-Rate.png]

Why are you only focused on  firearm homicides?   Shouldn't it be about all homicides, and even then there are other things to consider such as increase in police force.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 5:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 4:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why do you show us a biased graph, from a biased source?


Try this:
[Image: UK-Firearm-Homicide-Rate.png]

Why are you only focused on  firearm homicides?   Shouldn't it be about all homicides, and even then there are other things to consider such as increase in police force.


Ask Parliament why they're concerned with gun deaths.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 5:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 4:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why do you show us a biased graph, from a biased source?


Try this:
[Image: UK-Firearm-Homicide-Rate.png]

Why are you only focused on  firearm homicides?   Shouldn't it be about all homicides, and even then there are other things to consider such as increase in police force.

Not this shit again.

No shit, someone can be stabbed or poisoned or fake car accident, or shoved off a cliff, NO FUCKING SHIT.

But a firearm is far easier to use because it gives the user DISTANCE and SPEED.

AND moron, the bulk of firearm deaths OCCUR IN THE HOME. 

1. SUICIDE
2. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
3. ACCIDENTAL


You, "We need to ban tubs because people slip in them".

Sane, "Tubs are not trek'd up in bulk to a hotel room to commit mass murder."

"Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this shit" IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 5:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Why are you only focused on  firearm homicides?   Shouldn't it be about all homicides, and even then there are other things to consider such as increase in police force.

Because, quite apart from firearm deaths being the topic of discussion, guns are one of the few items that cause grievous injury and loss of life when used exactly as the manufacturer intended. We've been over this.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 5:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 5:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Why are you only focused on  firearm homicides?   Shouldn't it be about all homicides, and even then there are other things to consider such as increase in police force.

Not this shit again.

No shit, someone can be stabbed or poisoned or fake car accident, or shoved off a cliff, NO FUCKING SHIT.

But a firearm is far easier to use because it gives the user DISTANCE and SPEED.

AND moron, the bulk of firearm deaths OCCUR IN THE HOME. 

1. SUICIDE
2. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
3. ACCIDENTAL


You, "We need to ban tubs because people slip in them".

Sane, "Tubs are not trek'd up in bulk to a hotel room to commit mass murder."

"Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this shit" IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.

Perhaps you should state what your goal is here, and what your proposing to solve it.  

If your goal is for less homicides, then it would seem that my question was legitimate, and calling me a moron is not very productive or mature.


Frankly I think you are focusing on the wrong thing.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 5:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Frankly I think you are focusing on the wrong thing.

Also known as "diversions".
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 5:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 5:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not this shit again.

No shit, someone can be stabbed or poisoned or fake car accident, or shoved off a cliff, NO FUCKING SHIT.

But a firearm is far easier to use because it gives the user DISTANCE and SPEED.

AND moron, the bulk of firearm deaths OCCUR IN THE HOME. 

1. SUICIDE
2. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
3. ACCIDENTAL


You, "We need to ban tubs because people slip in them".

Sane, "Tubs are not trek'd up in bulk to a hotel room to commit mass murder."

"Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this shit" IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.

Perhaps you should state what your goal is here, and what your proposing to solve it.  

If your goal is for less homicides, then it would seem that my question was legitimate, and calling me a moron is not very productive or mature.


Frankly I think you are focusing on the wrong thing.

DAMN, I was supposed to throw a keg party over the fact 36,000 people die on average per year from use of firearms?

OH MY GOD, 59 PEOPLE DEAD AND 500 INJURED, AND A CHURCH SHOOTING,  AWESOME!

KEG PARTY FOR EVERYONE!

Yea because being called a "moron" is far more deadly than attending a outdoor concert where a nut shoots you in the head 32 stories up from a hotel. Sorry my offending you ended your life........... OH WAIT, all you got was offended.

"Moron" is an apt description of your lack of priorities. 


Get back to me when you can prove the word "moron" is as lethal as an assault riffle.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
Quote:Perhaps you should state what your goal is here, and what your proposing to solve it.  


If you were less dense, RR, then you'd know that he was talking about gun control.

But if you were less dense, you wouldn't be you.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
And as far as my "goal" to cut through your crap and to point out the problem has been the same on firarms for DECADES. America went from sanity to insanity. We went from valuing a sane NRA when it started, to a profit lobby. To point out that we have an unhealthy obsession with objects.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
(November 13, 2017 at 6:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: And as far as my "goal" to cut through your crap and to point out the problem has been the same on firarms for DECADES. America went from sanity to insanity. We went from valuing a sane NRA when it started, to a profit lobby. To point out that we have an unhealthy obsession with objects.

Americans own 1/2 the privately owned guns in the world. The US has 4.4% of the world's population, and 3% of THAT group owns half the guns. It's a very small dumbographic.
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