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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 4:34 am
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(November 28, 2017 at 4:17 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: A God in the shoes of man is no God.
The sun doesn't have a heart.
The ground doesn't have feelings.
God is not a man.
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 4:45 am
(November 29, 2017 at 4:19 am)Godscreated Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 11:17 pm)Hammy Wrote: The fact God is invincible is not remotely impressive. Something nonexistent isn't exactly capable of being vincible.
One day you will find out just how invincible God is and yes you will be impressed.
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You do know that to an atheist you look like a primitive witch doctor pointing a bone at him threatening him with death. The atheist is not afraid of you or your primitive threats.
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 5:08 am
(November 29, 2017 at 4:45 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: (November 29, 2017 at 4:19 am)Godscreated Wrote: One day you will find out just how invincible God is and yes you will be impressed.
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You do know that to an atheist you look like a primitive witch doctor pointing a bone at him threatening him with death. The atheist is not afraid of you or your primitive threats.
I haven't threatened anyone, I'm stating what is said in the Bible. You shouldn't be afraid of me, you have no reason. What you should be afraid of is yourself and the wrong choice you are making with your eternal life, God will give you what you choose.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 5:11 am
(November 29, 2017 at 5:08 am)Godscreated Wrote: (November 29, 2017 at 4:45 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: You do know that to an atheist you look like a primitive witch doctor pointing a bone at him threatening him with death. The atheist is not afraid of you or your primitive threats.
I haven't threatened anyone, I'm stating what is said in the Bible. You shouldn't be afraid of me, you have no reason. What you should be afraid of is yourself and the wrong choice you are making with your eternal life, God will give you what you choose.
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 5:14 am
(November 29, 2017 at 5:08 am)Godscreated Wrote: (November 29, 2017 at 4:45 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: You do know that to an atheist you look like a primitive witch doctor pointing a bone at him threatening him with death. The atheist is not afraid of you or your primitive threats.
I haven't threatened anyone, I'm stating what is said in the Bible. You shouldn't be afraid of me, you have no reason. What you should be afraid of is yourself and the wrong choice you are making with your eternal life, God will give you what you choose.
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You need to work on your threats.
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 5:22 am
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(November 27, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 1:42 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Correct, yet He is invincible. That is the eternal punishment not living in the moment.
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According to the bible god is not invincible at all.
Judges 1:19 God gets defeated by iron chariots
God did not defeat those armies because the Israelites had disobeyed God, God had already started their punishment for their disobedience just as He promised them He would while Moses was still alive.
Abaddon_ire Wrote:Gen 32:22-32 Jacob wrestles god into submission. god then cheats.
Cheats now that is funny, Jesus has all this power and allows Jacob to struggle all night long then jesus uses this power to show Jacob it's useless to struggle against God. God will come out on top every time.
Abaddon_ire Wrote:Gen 3:22 god fears Adam becoming his equal.
Care to show the biblical explanation for this, betting you can't.
Abaddon_ire Wrote:Gen 11:1-9 god fears the tower of Babel.
Care to show the biblical explanation for this, bet you can't. God had given a command to the people to spread out into the world and they disobeyed so He gave them reason to. God wasn't afraid of some stone tower, He knew they needed to spread out over the planet so they wouldn't become like the pre-flood people were.
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(November 29, 2017 at 5:11 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (November 29, 2017 at 5:08 am)Godscreated Wrote: I haven't threatened anyone, I'm stating what is said in the Bible. You shouldn't be afraid of me, you have no reason. What you should be afraid of is yourself and the wrong choice you are making with your eternal life, God will give you what you choose.
GC
How deaf and blind are you exactly.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 6:11 am
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(November 28, 2017 at 4:25 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (November 28, 2017 at 2:56 am)Starhunter Wrote: About 2.4 billion died in the flood. Really? You plucked that arbitrary number from where exactly? And why is it the same number as god's kill list?
And why do animals not count?
(November 28, 2017 at 2:56 am)Starhunter Wrote: Sodom and Gomorrah close to 400,000 counting those in the surrounding cities. S and G? OK what was so bad about S & G? Nobody ever says because nobody has the foggiest clue.
(November 28, 2017 at 2:56 am)Starhunter Wrote: Around 8 billion at the end of the world.
(November 28, 2017 at 2:56 am)Starhunter Wrote: The Author of the rebellion against God is Satan, so anyone who adheres to the deeds or philosophy of this liar and murderer is as good as dead. No. Attempting to attribute anything to an imaginary being is a fools errand.
I am not quite sure how you would like to manage a world, let alone a universe where crime is acceptable - betrayal, lying, greed, murder, rape, the list is endless. Would you, like Lot, offer up your daughter's to be raped? I wouldn't but you would, that makes you morally bankrupt.
So what exactly is your point Abaddon?
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 6:14 am
(November 29, 2017 at 5:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: How deaf and blind are you exactly.
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 10:25 am
(November 29, 2017 at 6:11 am)Starhunter Wrote: (November 28, 2017 at 4:25 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Really? You plucked that arbitrary number from where exactly? And why is it the same number as god's kill list?
And why do animals not count?
S and G? OK what was so bad about S & G? Nobody ever says because nobody has the foggiest clue.
No. Attempting to attribute anything to an imaginary being is a fools errand.
I am not quite sure how you would like to manage a world, let alone a universe where crime is acceptable - betrayal, lying, greed, murder, rape, the list is endless. Would you, like Lot, offer up your daughter's to be raped? I wouldn't but you would, that makes you morally bankrupt.
So what exactly is your point Abaddon?
God, as described in the bible, is an immoral thug, a butcher, a slaver, a hypocrite, a liar, a rapist, and so forth.
Is that clear enough or must I swear to get the point across?
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 29, 2017 at 10:38 am
(November 29, 2017 at 4:45 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: (November 29, 2017 at 4:19 am)Godscreated Wrote: One day you will find out just how invincible God is and yes you will be impressed.
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You do know that to an atheist you look like a primitive witch doctor pointing a bone at him threatening him with death. The atheist is not afraid of you or your primitive threats.
Nobody should fear a fictional super natural anything. But I do fear human logic that leads humans en mass based on that bad logic to harm others.
I am not afraid of Yoda either, but would be if a "Star Wars" fan club started a religion out of it, gained political power, and started oppressing non Star Wars fans.
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