Why are most religions agains homosexuality?

[Haipule]

Luther was a clown who admitted to manipulating Scripture in his German translation to teach his "Salvation" which he thought--must be true(the Catholics where teaching "Justification"). He had to manipulate it because the Greek says no such thing(nor justification). Also, he was extremely anti-Semitic and his rhetoric of "burning synagogues" and "kicking the Jews out of Germany" was borrowed by the Nazis. Now, isn't that odd considering Jesus and the Apostles were Jew?

The reason Catholic priests don't marry was because a pope in about 1100AD said they should not do so, unbeknown to the priests, so that the church could have their inheritances. The Catholic church was all about the money--selling indulgences, etc.

Paul(in the first century) in the book of Romans chapter one talks about vile creatures known as "homosexuals" and paints a very ghastly picture of them--male and female. If you've ever been to Italy, specifically Pompeii, buried in the first century, you would know what he was talking about. The artifacts taken are in a Naples museum called the "Secret Closet" and it's all pornography.

The reason Paul did that is because in Chapter 2 he says(paraphrasing) to the Romans whom he never met, "If you go on passing judgement', "Then your just a bunch of fags!" Paul set them up.

The bible is an Adam and Eve thing only! No Adam and Steve! Why, because God loves women too. In fact, in the ancient writings(originally oral going back before Moses) of the Jews known as the Talmud, there is the "Law of onar". Which basically says, "You men bring your wife to orgasm or else!" Nullification of marriage and if her daddies rich, you betta get busy boy! Remember this always men: her sexual response system is complicated and unique. Your thing is so simple it reads like a bottle of shampoo--wash, rinse, repeat!

Again no argument! Man, am I having a good week or what!? Bill 3, Atheists and Christians 0!

[Godscreated]

Pertaining to the verses we've discussed.  Tell me can't you see how the Bible was relevant to Luther and others and relevant to Christians today even though science has shown us so much about the universe that they could not have known? The Bible was never intended to be a history book, it is a spiritual manual for Christians to live their lives by, and for the non-believer to find their way to God.

GC

If it's terrible on history and science, why should I trust it on spirituality?  If it can be wrong on the former, why not the latter?  Again, you have given me no reason to take it seriously.

 It's not terrible on history or science and like I said the Bible isn't for studying science or history. It is what it's always been intended for the study of spiritual things. Yes we can glean some history and some science from it but that's secondary to it's purpose. You do not want to admit it because then you would have no real reason not to study the Bible. Don't get offended but here's a reason, eternity with the only God who is so vast in all things that we will never be able to know all there is about Him or eternity in hell suffering from a life lead here without Him.

GC

[Godscreated]

the Bible says nothing about the sun moving around the earth.

Actually there are at least 67 Bible verses about how the Sun is the one that is moving, like:
Psalm 19:6 The sun rises at one end of the heavens and follows its course to the other end. Nothing can hide from its heat.

Come on, we say the same things today. Our calendars today give the time of sun rise and sun set.

But I get it, you live in denial. You don't want to admit that Bible gives false information, that were then science of the day in line with Babylonians who believed that the Earth is flat, lying on foundations with heaven (firmament) as a semi-spherical vault that nestles down over the earth. Not just that but Paul believed it too and he also believed in heaven being divided in many layers (ever heard of expression 7th heaven? Where do you think that came about?).

Me in denial now that's funny. You're the one who can't even see the simplest of things. Even in Paul's day everyone believed the earth stood still and everything revolved around it, even the most educated. You are trying to mix the spiritual world Paul was speaking of with the physical world. You need to do some real Bible study before you try and argue against the Bible.  Your remarks are at best childish.

I do not [think Bible is biology textbook], it's you that tries to argue it is.

Oh but you do, in the very same post "Biological evolution is false, it hasn't been proven not even close. I have a consistent view point that holds true to the scriptures".

Evolution is false even though the Bible only tells us of the creation. Evolution is a recent ideology and wasn't considered  when it was written. You are so far off base with your thinking it's unbelievable. 

It's hard to talk with people like you because you are driven by emotion and I am just looking it with logic and rationalize. You start with wanting something to be true, like the that Bible is 100% accurate in description of world around us and history, yet it's not so you just go into this ridiculous excuses for the Bible that nobody finds credible. At least flat earthers Christians admit that Bible describes Earth as flat, but like any emotional driven people they start coming up with ridiculous conspiracies why majority of people don't think that way.

You've lost your mind, I've not argued from an emotional stand point, I've given relevant information and you are ignoring it because apparently you can't understand even the simplest of things. The bible is correct in all things and you can't prove different. You probably come across this kinda' argument on some atheist site and thought you would bring it here. Do your own work and study the Bible and the times in which it was written. As far as I see you are the only one responding in an emotional way, I can tell you you certainly are not using logic.

Like you, when I noted that you think that scientists are colluding with the devil to bring more people to hell to which you responded "I have no idea what you are rambling about" and yet all credible scientists say there is plenty of evidence that biological evolution happened to which you say there is no evidence. Are they lying? Why would they say that? Can't they read the Bible? What is their agenda to teach it to children?

 The devil is manipulating them, they do not believe in the spiritual. Just as he deceived Adam and Eve he deceives the evolutionary scientist with one big difference, Adam and Eve knew there was a God, they spent every day with Him until the fall. There is no evidence for evolution, none.

GC

[Abaddon_ire]

 The devil is manipulating them, they do not believe in the spiritual. Just as he deceived Adam and Eve he deceives the evolutionary scientist with one big difference, Adam and Eve knew there was a God, they spent every day with Him until the fall. There is no evidence for evolution, none.

GC

The bible says you are wrong and evolution is more solidly evidenced that gravity.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

This is a issue I'm actually confused with because I've heard Bible actually talks positively about lesbian stuff but negatively about gay stuff(if someone knows better about it then please explain). I think the perception regarding homosexuality is largely cultural, some cultures are more indifferent towards it while other cultures take these things very seriously, as far as I'm concerned people should be free to pursue what makes them happy. 😊

[Edwardo Piet]

That does remove the inconsistency since it leaves unanswered what the greatest good is.

The two greatest goods are, 1) The survival of the human race, and 2) Maximizing the happiness of every human being, as much as possible.

I agree with the second one

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Luther was a clown who admitted to manipulating Scripture in his German translation to teach his "Salvation" which he thought--must be true(the Catholics where teaching "Justification"). He had to manipulate it because the Greek says no such thing(nor justification). Also, he was extremely anti-Semitic and his rhetoric of "burning synagogues" and "kicking the Jews out of Germany" was borrowed by the Nazis. Now, isn't that odd considering Jesus and the Apostles were Jew?

The reason Catholic priests don't marry was because a pope in about 1100AD said they should not do so, unbeknown to the priests, so that the church could have their inheritances. The Catholic church was all about the money--selling indulgences, etc.

Paul(in the first century) in the book of Romans chapter one talks about vile creatures known as "homosexuals" and paints a very ghastly picture of them--male and female. If you've ever been to Italy, specifically Pompeii, buried in the first century, you would know what he was talking about. The artifacts taken are in a Naples museum called the "Secret Closet" and it's all pornography.

The reason Paul did that is because in Chapter 2 he says(paraphrasing) to the Romans whom he never met, "If you go on passing judgement', "Then your just a bunch of fags!" Paul set them up.

The bible is an Adam and Eve thing only! No Adam and Steve! Why, because God loves women too. In fact, in the ancient writings(originally oral going back before Moses) of the Jews known as the Talmud, there is the "Law of onar". Which basically says, "You men bring your wife to orgasm or else!" Nullification of marriage and if her daddies rich, you betta get busy boy! Remember this always men: her sexual response system is complicated and unique. Your thing is so simple it reads like a bottle of shampoo--wash, rinse, repeat!

Again no argument! Man, am I having a good week or what!? Bill 3, Atheists and Christians 0!

Maybe you should look up the Argument from Ignorance.

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This is a issue I'm actually confused with because I've heard Bible actually talks positively about lesbian stuff but negatively about gay stuff

What's the confusion there?! It was written by horny male goat herders so how is it surprising that they had no problem with lesbians?

[Jehanne]

 The devil is manipulating them, they do not believe in the spiritual. Just as he deceived Adam and Eve he deceives the evolutionary scientist with one big difference, Adam and Eve knew there was a God, they spent every day with Him until the fall. There is no evidence for evolution, none.

GC

Why do you think that there is evidence for the motion of the Earth and not for evolution:

https://www.nap.edu/read/6024/chapter/1

[Drich]

Most religions center around "traditional family structure which under girds the type of society Religion seeks to build. Homosexuality is anti traditional family. No mom and dad no kids. Homosexuality is typically centered around self or the individual want/need rather than a collective. which was the only way any young society had a chance in 'making it.'

And the pillars of the church, the champions of Christianity? From the pope, the cardinals, the bishops, right down to the parish priests and the nuns. All virgins, No mom and dad no kids. All anti traditional family. Lead by example I say. Get some shagging done.



On second thoughts...

That is what the bible tells us to do. Elect church leaders with strong family values. a man who leads his family as Christ would lead the church. IDK how the catholics went off the rails on that one, but leading by example should have been the key prerequisite for church leadership.

[Succubus]

And the pillars of the church, the champions of Christianity? From the pope, the cardinals, the bishops, right down to the parish priests and the nuns. All virgins, No mom and dad no kids. All anti traditional family. Lead by example I say. Get some shagging done.



On second thoughts...

That is what the bible tells us to do. Elect church leaders with strong family values. a man who leads his family as Christ would lead the church. IDK how the catholics went off the rails on that one, but leading by example should have been the key prerequisite for church leadership.

You don't know how the Catholics went off the rails? Well kudos to you mister, I never thought I'd see the day you would admit to such a thing. Is there in your opinion, anything else the Catholics get wrong regarding what the bible tells us?

[Drich]

That is what the bible tells us to do. Elect church leaders with strong family values. a man who leads his family as Christ would lead the church. IDK how the catholics went off the rails on that one, but leading by example should have been the key prerequisite for church leadership.

You don't know how the Catholics went off the rails? Well kudos to you mister, I never thought I'd see the day you would admit to such a thing. Is there in your opinion, anything else the Catholics get wrong regarding what the bible tells us?

Brother,

None of us has it 100% right..

The thing is we don't have to have it right. As our only command concerning God is we love Him with all of our being. which means when we worship we do our absolute best, and if our best means we get something wrong. then the same grace that forgives our willful and rebellious sin forgives us when we are doing our best to love and worship God but simply do not know any better.

What did you think? we were held to the same standard of right and wrong the jews were held to but with out a solid set of rules they had?