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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 5, 2018 at 11:22 am
alpha male Wrote:Abaddon_ire Wrote:One fail for you.
Prove me wrong.
So far we've seen that scientists can synthesize amino acids. That's it.
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Have you considered the title of the thread?
Have you considered whether you think anything that has not been specifically demonstrated to be true is actually the case? Have you considered that I don't have to take the title of the thread into account for every response I make in the thread?
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 5, 2018 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2018 at 4:02 pm by Haipule.)
I have already stated the defense of my position on other threads. And this one.
Genesis 1:1 has the Hebrew word bara translated as "created". Yet, bara means: to whittle or carve. It also has the meaning to "speak into existence". It is where we get the Hebrew magic word "abracadabra", which means something like: "I have said it and it shall come to pass as I have said". Other verses of the OT support that idea. I'll spare you the quote.
Now, in the area of vacuum mechanics, we have what I call zero point energy(there are about a dozen other names for it, another one is "plasma"). According to vacuum mechanics, the order of things ZPE - gas - liquid - solid. And whether gas liquid or solid, all things are from ZPE.
So, to defend my literal stand point, God bara ZPE to be universe, and everything else to exist, as gas liquid solid. No allegory.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 5, 2018 at 4:16 pm
You're a shoe-in for a Nobel.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 6, 2018 at 9:29 pm
(January 5, 2018 at 4:16 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You're a shoe-in for a Nobel. Do you really think so? Being silly. The argument so far is "no" as there is no God. *sigh*
Yet, it somewhat goes with that Big Bang thingy. Except I'm sure God's Word was not BANG! Although I haven't ruled out BAZINGA!
God and vacuum mechanics seems logical to me and no one argued against it.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 7, 2018 at 10:26 am
Your perceptions are hardly the standard for what is or isn't logical. Are you expecting an argument, or do you think it's required? I don't argue with people who think that fairies paint the dew on morning flowers either - I just point and laugh.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 7, 2018 at 2:09 pm
There is lots of abiogenetic research going on, it's just not as sexy as physics, because biologists know it occurred and evolutionary biology is more helpful to us now.
Here are three relevant papers, there are loads more out there. Sadly lots are behind paywalls.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4568310/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4568310/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19444213
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 7, 2018 at 7:15 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 10:26 am)Khemikal Wrote: Your perceptions are hardly the standard for what is or isn't logical. Are you expecting an argument, or do you think it's required? I don't argue with people who think that fairies paint the dew on morning flowers either - I just point and laugh. I'm not trolling. I neither "expect" an argument nor require one. I just offered something up to people much smarter then me. I was curious what they would say. Having done many experiments with ZPE, I have learned many exciting things and have a long way to go. It's kinda like the contemporaries Einstein vs. Tesla: one made equations about it and one did stuff with it. They did not see eye to eye. Tesla said of Einstein: "He's a kind man who wishes to help".
However, the "no comment" concerning my suggestion speaks volumes. At least, can the vacuum mechanics of quantum physics explain much more then "BANG!"?
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
January 8, 2018 at 1:18 pm
It speaks volumes of the perception that you're not qualified to judge whether what you're saying is actually the case. There are multiple plausible hypotheses for the origin of the universe. Unfortunately, we can't currently test to see which, if any, are the actual origin. Bud adding 'God' to 'vacuum mechanics' is, ironically perhaps, the same as adding nothing.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
March 15, 2019 at 1:42 am
(December 21, 2017 at 3:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: Why cannot science objectively find just one example out of trillions, where we can say, yeah, that thing right there, it shouldn't happen like that but it does, repeatedly.
That thing goes against what is logical or possible in our universe.
They have this bizarre idea anything of God has to be out of the ordinary.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God?
March 15, 2019 at 1:55 am
Science is humble. god is a barbaric, conceited, insolent clod!
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