Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith?

[KevinM1]

Oh?

Well some of the sins may have an impact on your health, there are a lot of sins soo making him prove that sin causses accidents or illness is not a good aproach.

This was an A+ movement of goalposts.  First you say that, yes, some sins do cause illness.  Now you say that some may have an impact on your health.  From do, to may.

Classic.

Now, the easy, low hanging fruit is substance abuse.  Yet, there’s nothing in the Bible that explicitly prohibits it.  The closest it comes is saying that people need to obey the law of the land, even if they disagree, and to treat their bodies as a temple.  Plus some stuff about not letting one be deceived, yadda yadda.

Of course, none of that stops many self-proclaimed Christians from partaking in all sorts of behavior like this.  Not just hard drugs, but alcohol, nicotine, etc.  Shit, if not treating one’s body properly is a sin, then the typical American diet counts.  

But, my larger point isn’t that sin is bad behavior.  To Christians, it’s a metaphysical force.  One their god is so troubled by, offended by, that he sent himself/his son to be sacrificed (which makes absolutely no sense, but whatever).  It’s a literal stain on our purported souls.  Yet, neither souls nor this force which acts upon them have ever been detected.  Sin is, frankly, nonsense, and pointing to it as being the cause of things even more so.

So, when I say prove it, I mean prove it.  Don’t just regurgitate what a book says, as that’s merely the claim.  Show me, unequivocally, that these things exist.  Otherwise any claims of knowledge about them are false, and you’re merely talking gibberish.

[Der/die AtheistIn]

So basically God is all-knowing and all powerfull, He has a plan for everyone of us and the suffering He puts us through is necesarry. Yet He needs us inferior sinners to ask him for salvation and other good things. Isn't this interfering with His plan? And if He's all-knowing this means He knew Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit and that the original sin will pass on. So we're basically his pawns in a game of chess which is supposedly against the Devil, but not really since He doesn't have a chance against God and the Devil was created by God too.

  God doesn't need anything, if you want to be saved you will have to ask. Some suffering is necessary and some we bring on ourselves. Instead of accepting responsibility for your actions and the results of those actions you want to blame God. You can never interfere with God's plan, he will not allow it. Of coarse He knew Adam and Eve would disobey Him and that sin would destroy mankind if He did not do something about it. We are not pawns in a game, you are evidence of that, you have decided that your rejection of God is an acceptable risk and are willing to suffer eternally if you are wrong.

GC

So God loves me, yet if I don't ask for forgiveness for my sins, one of which I didn't commit, He will send me to Hell? You might reply that I'm sending myself to Hell, no I'm not. He's the one who invented Hell and commaded for all sinners to go there. I can't say that someone being arrested for commiting a crime arrested themselves.
You think it's fair that all humanity was blamed for a mistake two humans made? Todays human justice doesn't see it that way. And why is knowing the difference between wrong and right bad? Doesn't this mean Adam and Eve were amoral? I think that the first step of doing the right thing is knowing the difference between good and bad.
If God is all-knowing this means He knows the future as well. If He knows exactly what is going to happen is He able to change it? If he is able, and the future takes place exactly as He commands, doesn't this mean that our actions take place exactly as He commands as well? You claim we have free will, so He doesn't interfere with that. If he isn't able to, this means he isn't all powerfull. If he is able but not willing then there is power He doesn't use to prevent evil. I see a paradox here. http://en.atheismfacts.org/epicurean-paradox.html
And I don't blame God, I don't believe in Him. I blame the people who invented and used Him for their personal benefit.

[notimportant1234]

Well some of the sins may have an impact on your health, there are a lot of sins soo making him prove that sin causses accidents or illness is not a good aproach.

This was an A+ movement of goalposts.  First you say that, yes, some sins do cause illness.  Now you say that some may have an impact on your health.  From do, to may.

Classic.

Now, the easy, low hanging fruit is substance abuse.  Yet, there’s nothing in the Bible that explicitly prohibits it.  The closest it comes is saying that people need to obey the law of the land, even if they disagree, and to treat their bodies as a temple.  Plus some stuff about not letting one be deceived, yadda yadda.

Of course, none of that stops many self-proclaimed Christians from partaking in all sorts of behavior like this.  Not just hard drugs, but alcohol, nicotine, etc.  Shit, if not treating one’s body properly is a sin, then the typical American diet counts.  

But, my larger point isn’t that sin is bad behavior.  To Christians, it’s a metaphysical force.  One their god is so troubled by, offended by, that he sent himself/his son to be sacrificed (which makes absolutely no sense, but whatever).  It’s a literal stain on our purported souls.  Yet, neither souls nor this force which acts upon them have ever been detected.  Sin is, frankly, nonsense, and pointing to it as being the cause of things even more so.

So, when I say prove it, I mean prove it.  Don’t just regurgitate what a book says, as that’s merely the claim.  Show me, unequivocally, that these things exist.  Otherwise any claims of knowledge about them are false, and you’re merely talking gibberish.

First of all, I didn't tryed to prove sin to you , for the rest of your post , read my edit on the post.
Second, I sayed " some sins have an impact on your health" than I sayed "there are a lot of sins" as in there are so many that you have to struggle to not find one, but if it doesn't impact the health , I could go psychologycal or pop psychology but again , read my edit on the post.

[KevinM1]

This was an A+ movement of goalposts.  First you say that, yes, some sins do cause illness.  Now you say that some may have an impact on your health.  From do, to may.

Classic.

Now, the easy, low hanging fruit is substance abuse.  Yet, there’s nothing in the Bible that explicitly prohibits it.  The closest it comes is saying that people need to obey the law of the land, even if they disagree, and to treat their bodies as a temple.  Plus some stuff about not letting one be deceived, yadda yadda.

Of course, none of that stops many self-proclaimed Christians from partaking in all sorts of behavior like this.  Not just hard drugs, but alcohol, nicotine, etc.  Shit, if not treating one’s body properly is a sin, then the typical American diet counts.  

But, my larger point isn’t that sin is bad behavior.  To Christians, it’s a metaphysical force.  One their god is so troubled by, offended by, that he sent himself/his son to be sacrificed (which makes absolutely no sense, but whatever).  It’s a literal stain on our purported souls.  Yet, neither souls nor this force which acts upon them have ever been detected.  Sin is, frankly, nonsense, and pointing to it as being the cause of things even more so.

So, when I say prove it, I mean prove it.  Don’t just regurgitate what a book says, as that’s merely the claim.  Show me, unequivocally, that these things exist.  Otherwise any claims of knowledge about them are false, and you’re merely talking gibberish.

First of all, I didn't tryed to prove sin to you , for the rest of your post , read my edit on the post.
Second, I sayed " some sins have an impact on your health" than I sayed "there are a lot of sins" as in there are so many that you have to struggle to not find one, but if it doesn't impact the health , I could go psychologycal or pop psychology but again , read my edit on the post.

And, my response, again, is that, to Christians, sin isn't just mundane behavior, but a metaphysical force that supposedly taints one's soul.  And until that can be proven, any claim of it causing certain things or doing certain things is gibberish.

[notimportant1234]

And like i sayed before , like karma it is based on some degree of reality and than add mysticism

[Astreja]

One significant difference between unhealthy behaviours and "sin" is that in many cases (for example, obesity or alcohol abuse) one can mitigate or sometimes even eliminate the harm by stopping the behaviour itself.

With sins being something indelible that can only be forgiven via blood sacrifice, where's the incentive to fix the actual problem?

[notimportant1234]

I think it comes from the fear that all your sins will be judged , of course there is redemption but in order to receive redemption you need to have the actual desire to restrain yourself.

[KevinM1]

But, according to many variations of Christianity, it's not enough to just do good works. What's required, more than anything else, is the acceptance of Jesus as the son of god, and the importance/power of his sacrifice.

One could cure disease, end war, solve world hunger, etc., but would still go to hell/be separated from god because they didn't accept him.

Which is stupid.

[JackRussell]

And all the converts dismiss those that have asked, received nothing and moved on.

Your gift is either unique and not available to all, or we are liars.

Personal testimony is not evidence, whilst I admit I cannot refute it.

God(s) silence is an honest appraisal of his engagement in my life.

Have asked, repeated silence.

And science denying theists only serve to increase my incredulity; so as witnesses you are doing a very poor job.

[notimportant1234]

This may be an ultimatum or may be the salvation for those who can't manage to do good works. From what I read all sins are equal in the eyes of God soo that means not believing beeing at the same level with any other sin. If Jesus died for our sins that includes not believing in him.