Hypothetical Q's about psychotic beliefs and antipsychotics

[Catholic_Lady]

There's also the fact that I don't need anti psychotics (or anti depressants or anti anxiety or anti anything) because I have 0 mental illness.

You lie! I have the zeromost mental illnesses!

*runs off and climbs a tree*

Lol. Yeah I know that came off like I was bragging or something. My apologies. I just find it ironic and extremely annoying to be told my belief in God is a mental illness on my part when in reality I have no mental illnesses whatsoever, but the person accusing me of it sometimes does so themselves.

[LastPoet]

You lie! I have the zeromost mental illnesses!

*runs off and climbs a tree*

Lol. Yeah I know that came off like I was bragging or something. My apologies. I just find it ironic and extremely annoying to be told my belief in God is a mental illness on my part when in reality I have no mental illnesses whatsoever, but the person accusing me of it sometimes does so themselves.

I do find your belief (I was a catholic and have twin catholic sisters) a fantasy. Well, I tell you what I told them: as long your belief doesn't harm others, fine by me. Does that say I think my sisters are crazy? Nah. One of them mabe, only because its a psychologist: got to be a little for the job

[brewer]

You lie! I have the zeromost mental illnesses!

*runs off and climbs a tree*

Lol. Yeah I know that came off like I was bragging or something. My apologies. I just find it ironic and extremely annoying to be told my belief in God is a mental illness on my part when in reality I have no mental illnesses whatsoever, but the person accusing me of it sometimes does so themselves.

If you look close enough you'll find that everyone has some snippet(s) of mental illness. They just don't express themselves enough to recognized/categorized. 

Consider yourself sub sicko.

[Edwardo Piet]

If, for example, I believe that my partner is cheating on me, and she is not, in most cases, I am merely wrong.  If I believe that she's cheating on me because a time-traveling slug from the Andromeda galaxy told me so, that would be psychosis.

But not if it really is because of the time-travelling slug from the Andromeda galaxy, right?!

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There's also the fact that I don't need anti psychotics (or anti depressants or anti anxiety or anti anything) because I have 0 mental illness.

I agree.

Because there's no such thing as "Poop Obsessional Disorder"

[Catholic_Lady]

Poop is sooooo funny!

[brewer]

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There's also the fact that I don't need anti psychotics (or anti depressants or anti anxiety or anti anything) because I have 0 mental illness.

I agree.

Because there's no such thing as "Poop Obsessional Disorder"

Um,................. coprophilia? 

Not that she plays with it or anything. I don't know if she's into counting peanuts.

[Catholic_Lady]

What's counting peanuts mean?

[Whateverist]

Heh heh heh.

[Rev. Rye]

From what I've learnt, psychosis is a false perception of reality, which is categorized into 2 kinds: hallucinations and delusions.

1) I believe that antipsychotics are usually prescribed when a person has a paranoid belief. However, I think that psychiatrists rarely bother to check whether the paranoid belief is true or not. They just assume that the paranoid belief is false because they deem it implausible. Consider person A who thinks his wife is spying on him. If he is right about his wife spying on him, then his belief that his wife is spying on him is not psychotic. In fact, if his wife was really spying on him and he believed that she wasn't, then that would be a psychotic belief, for it would be false. So why don't psychiatrists spend more time verifying the falsity of a particular paranoid belief before labeling it a "delusion".

2) Suppose person B believes that his wife isn't spying on him when in fact she is. B is psychotic because he has a false belief about his wife. Would he respond to antipsychotics? This is an example of a psychotic (false) belief that isn't paranoid.

3) For another psychotic belief that isn't paranoid, consider a physics student who believes that the sun actually rises in the west and that it is an optical illusion that it rises in the east. Would he respond to antipsychotics? Or more importantly, should society prescribe him antipsychotics or try to engage him in an intellectual debate? For all we know, he may be the next Einstein!

4) Finally, and relevant to this forum, should religious people be prescribed antipsychotics? Have any religious people become atheists as a result of antipsychotic treatment? I ask because we know that religious belief is one delusion that does not respond well to reason or argument by itself.

From what I understand, paranoid delusions are not in and of itself sufficient for the sort of diagnosis that would merit antipsychotics.  The DSM says of the following symptoms, two would be necessary:

(1) delusions
(2) hallucinations
(3) disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence) 
(4) grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
(5) negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition

However, one would be sufficient under specific situations, like a voice doing running commentary over a person's actions or thoughts or multiple voices conversing, or, in a more germane example: delusions that are bizarre. I had a coworker who claimed he knew another person who complained that his dog was selling condos on his property. That's the sort of paranoid delusion that would be an instant diagnosis. That said, I don't think psychologists are likely to do such an investigation over paranoid delusions that are actually plausible, and may be likely to err on the side of delusion.

[Edwardo Piet]

Poop is sooooo funny!

Yea but don't make me change my mind about there being no such thing as POD