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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 12:31 am
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(January 20, 2018 at 12:25 am)Khemikal Wrote: Refresh my memory, and is it one that we have any trouble shooting at?
The mafia.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 12:59 am
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Oh, yeah...so...the mafia was pretty fucking religious, and the church helped them to launder money..but, taking it..for some reason..as a "secular organization.".....?.....
-we didn't have any problem shooting at their asses.
Honestly Pablo, wtf?
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:16 am
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(January 20, 2018 at 12:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: Oh, yeah...so...the mafia was pretty fucking religious, and the church helped them to launder money..but, taking it..for some reason..as a "secular organization.".....?.....
-we didn't have any problem shooting at their asses.
Honestly Pablo, wtf?
Some parts of the mafia may have been religious, some aren't. I'd say the mafia as a whole isn't a religious or spiritual organization, the church may have helped them, but they've also killed members of the church. The church wasn't helping them because of religion, the mafia didn't kill members of the church because of religion.
Their actions, their goals, and their members as a whole are of no specific religious alliance.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:20 am
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(January 20, 2018 at 2:16 am)paulpablo Wrote: Some parts of the mafia may have been religious, some aren't. I'd say the mafia as a whole isn't a religious or spiritual organization, the church may have helped them, but they've also killed members of the church. The church wasn't helping them because of religion, the mafia didn't kill members of the church because of religion.
Their actions, their goals, and their members as a whole are of no specific religious alliance.
What....the fuck, lol? Again, I;m not sure why we're using the mafia as an example of organized secularism, but running with it for completely batshit reasons..again....it shows why an organized group is more dangerous than an unorganized one, and also that we're more than happy to blast the shit out of organized groups of people who present a specific threat or danger to society. We make allowance for organized religions, however, even when they do present specific dangers or threats...along a scale of "mostly harmless" to tossing virgins into volcanos.
One wonders where a given religion is teetering on that scale, and how we will respond when a religion inevitably crosses the line (wherever that is). Will we still give deference..or will we treat them like, for example..your organized crime syndicate.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:29 am
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(January 20, 2018 at 2:20 am)Khemikal Wrote: (January 20, 2018 at 2:16 am)paulpablo Wrote: Some parts of the mafia may have been religious, some aren't. I'd say the mafia as a whole isn't a religious or spiritual organization, the church may have helped them, but they've also killed members of the church. The church wasn't helping them because of religion, the mafia didn't kill members of the church because of religion.
Their actions, their goals, and their members as a whole are of no specific religious alliance.
What....the fuck, lol? Again, I;m not sure why we're using the mafia as an example of organized secularism, but running with it for completely batshit reasons..again....it shows why an organized group is more dangerous than an unorganized one, and also that we're more than happy to blast the shit out of organized groups of people who present a specific threat or danger to society. We make allowance for organized religions, however, even when they dop present specific dangrs or threats...along a scale of "mostly harmless" to tossing virgins into volcanos.
If you say the American government is an example of organized secularism, would you not also say they're an example of a dangerous organization?
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:34 am
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(January 20, 2018 at 2:29 am)paulpablo Wrote: If you say the American government is an example of organized secularism, would you not also say they're an example of a dangerous organization?
Potentially one of the most dangerous organizations in the world, yeah. That's why we have to keep them under thumb, isn't it?
Have you not seen the sorts of shit we get up to? All it takes is a little momentum, it doesn;t even matter if you have popular support - and bam..you have yourselves a war.
(and whenever they're not bombing not-americastan theyre fucking the poor here at home....so.....?)
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:36 am
(January 20, 2018 at 2:34 am)Khemikal Wrote: (January 20, 2018 at 2:29 am)paulpablo Wrote: If you say the American government is an example of organized secularism, would you not also say they're an example of a dangerous organization?
Potentially one of the most dangerous organizations in the world, yeah. That's why we have to keep them under thumb, isn't it?
Have you not seen the sorts of shit we get up to?
So that counts as the dangerous secular organization you were looking for.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:44 am
(January 20, 2018 at 2:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: (January 20, 2018 at 2:34 am)Khemikal Wrote: Potentially one of the most dangerous organizations in the world, yeah. That's why we have to keep them under thumb, isn't it?
Have you not seen the sorts of shit we get up to?
So that counts as the dangerous secular organization you were looking for.
-and.....? Paul, I don't think you ever had the pulse on this one.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 4:22 am
(January 20, 2018 at 2:44 am)Khemikal Wrote: (January 20, 2018 at 2:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: So that counts as the dangerous secular organization you were looking for.
-and.....? Paul, I don't think you ever had the pulse on this one.
And there you have what you weren't going to hold your breath for.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 4:25 am
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(January 19, 2018 at 7:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Right, but now..go find me a "just secularist" group that gets up to dirt that we have some problem shooting at. I'll wait, but I won't hold my breath.
You think so, Paul? Do you think that we have a problem shooting at governments (secular or otherwise), who get up to dirt, commonly known as waging wars?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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