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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 8:51 am
Making religion illegal strikes me as a shockingly bad idea. I support making religious discrimination (in all directions) illegal, though.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 9:10 am
Except it's the religions that fobid other religions, like Christians. Who do you think destroyed pagan temples in Europe as well as pagan books? Atheists?
And they have been doing it ever since to Jews, Incas, native Americans and many others including the non believers and on top of that many Christians want to go back to those times when you were killed for criticizing religion.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 9:23 am
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pool the matey Wrote:If you could make religion illegal, as in, a complete ban on anything and everything that is religious, would you do it or not?
I ask this because a lot of atheists I know think religion is the root of evil. Most of the atheists I know would prefer if religion just disappeared, so I'm guessing they would make it illegal in a heartbeat.
Never. You can't make the world a better place with oppression.
I think you're assuming most atheists are just like you, only they would ban different things. That's a mistake.
I wonder if Pool is going to participate in his own thread at some point?
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 9:33 am
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...03161.html
"Wednesday 26 April 2017 12:10 BST
Man ‘sentenced to death for atheism’ in Saudi Arabia
Man identified by local media as Ahmad Al-Shamri, in his 20s, lost two appeals after being arrested on charges of blasphemy for social media videos in which he denounced the Prophet Mohammed".
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 10:25 am
Yeah in Saudi Arabia it's illegal to be anything other than Muslim, that's nothing new.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 10:33 am
And that takes traveling to Saudi Arabia off my bucket list right along with close observation of large sharks.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:39 pm
(January 20, 2018 at 9:10 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Except it's the religions that fobid other religions, like Christians. Who do you think destroyed pagan temples in Europe as well as pagan books? Atheists?
And they have been doing it ever since to Jews, Incas, native Americans and many others including the non believers and on top of that many Christians want to go back to those times when you were killed for criticizing religion.
Me to my mom- "Young people are starting to get involved in book burning."
My mom- "That's good."
Me- "No, you don't understand. I'm talking about the SJW Hillary Clinton supporters. They're starting to burn books."
My mom- "Oh. Well, that's not good."
Yes, this really happened. She wouldn't want anyone killed for practicing their religion, but getting excited about news of book burning is still pretty bad.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 2:44 pm
No, But I would make any worship of false deities illegal. I wanna save as many lost sheep as I can, each one earns you an extra hour in the eternal ice cream filled swimming pool.
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 5:00 pm
Yup and in Angola muslims have no legal status and are frequently murdered .
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
January 20, 2018 at 7:57 pm
I don't know if anyone made this point already, but the beauty of secularism is that it allows a plurality of viewpoints and perspectives.
I support free thinking. That means religious thinking, nonreligious thinking, anti-religious thinking... every kind of thinking. People have the right to use (and misuse) their minds in whatever way they see fit. I don't think that religion is necessarily harmful to society--religion in control is harmful to society. It is a mark of good health to find a variety of viewpoints among a given population.
I might admire a society in which a majority rejects God's existence, but only in such a case that the people came to that realization themselves. If they were coerced into such a belief, I wouldn't have any admiration for the society at all.
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