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RE: So today at the bank................
March 10, 2018 at 11:20 pm
Quote:The original world that God made did not threaten any animals.
Rubbish
Quote:When death entered that system, it took it's toll.
Death has always been part of life .
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 10, 2018 at 11:38 pm
(March 10, 2018 at 11:12 pm)wallym Wrote: So they (animals) were intelligently designed for a world without death?
Do you believe animals predated humans? Like dinosaurs were here. Then died off. Then humans came around? If original sin was the death source, would you need humans first to have extinctions?
Plan A.
Animals were designed to live forever.
Animals were created in the same week of creation.
The world was designed to respond to the presence of human beings, just like the universe is influenced by the presence of God, whether he interacts with it or not.
So a man could choose to benefit or change the world around him or just be there, and benefits would flow both ways.
There was a time when animals had no fear of man, and would approach him with trust.
When the relationship to God was severed, man lost the divine power which used to flow through him, and the power to benefit nature began to degrade.
Many species disappeared when the animals began to express and learn the ways of distrust.
If nature is ever going to be restored you have fix the man first. Then everything may follow the order of systematic benevolence.
Without power, man is relatively useless to live for ever, to have a positive influence on all the inhabited planets - which is in plan B.
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 10, 2018 at 11:41 pm
Quote:Plan A.
Animals were designed to live forever.
Animals were created in the same week of creation.
The world was designed to respond to the presence of human beings, just like the universe is influenced by the presence of God, whether he interacts with it or not.
So a man could choose to benefit or change the world around him or just be there, and benefits would flow both ways.
There was a time when animals had no fear of man, and would approach him with trust.
When the relationship to God was severed, man lost the divine power which used to flow through him, and the power to benefit nature began to degrade.
Many species disappeared when the animals began to express and learn the ways of distrust.
If nature is ever going to be restored you have fix the man first. Then everything may follow the order of systematic benevolence.
Without power, man is relatively useless to live for ever, to have a positive influence on all the inhabited planets - which is in plan B.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 11, 2018 at 12:41 am
(March 10, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Banned Wrote: (March 10, 2018 at 10:55 pm)wallym Wrote: Out of curiosity, when a species goes extinct, is that covered under intelligent design too?
Not a gotcha question. I just don't recall hearing what the answer was to this in the past.
The original world that God made did not threaten any animals.
When death entered that system, it took it's toll.
(March 10, 2018 at 9:08 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: There's a coincidence. I don't believe a word you're saying.
Try to be more original, you don't want me to think that you are a parrot do you?
Parrots are more intelligent than you.
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 11, 2018 at 12:49 am
Quote:Try to be more original, you don't want me to think that you are a parrot do you?
Why be original when it's enough to be right . And i doubt he gives a toss what you that about him .
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 11, 2018 at 9:21 am
(March 10, 2018 at 11:38 pm)Banned Wrote: (March 10, 2018 at 11:12 pm)wallym Wrote: So they (animals) were intelligently designed for a world without death?
Do you believe animals predated humans? Like dinosaurs were here. Then died off. Then humans came around? If original sin was the death source, would you need humans first to have extinctions?
Plan A.
Animals were designed to live forever.
Animals were created in the same week of creation.
The world was designed to respond to the presence of human beings, just like the universe is influenced by the presence of God, whether he interacts with it or not.
So a man could choose to benefit or change the world around him or just be there, and benefits would flow both ways.
There was a time when animals had no fear of man, and would approach him with trust.
When the relationship to God was severed, man lost the divine power which used to flow through him, and the power to benefit nature began to degrade.
Many species disappeared when the animals began to express and learn the ways of distrust.
If nature is ever going to be restored you have fix the man first. Then everything may follow the order of systematic benevolence.
Without power, man is relatively useless to live for ever, to have a positive influence on all the inhabited planets - which is in plan B.
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 11, 2018 at 9:47 am
(March 10, 2018 at 11:38 pm)Banned Wrote: (March 10, 2018 at 11:12 pm)wallym Wrote: So they (animals) were intelligently designed for a world without death?
Do you believe animals predated humans? Like dinosaurs were here. Then died off. Then humans came around? If original sin was the death source, would you need humans first to have extinctions?
Plan A.
Animals were designed to live forever.
Animals were created in the same week of creation.
The world was designed to respond to the presence of human beings, just like the universe is influenced by the presence of God, whether he interacts with it or not.
So a man could choose to benefit or change the world around him or just be there, and benefits would flow both ways.
There was a time when animals had no fear of man, and would approach him with trust.
When the relationship to God was severed, man lost the divine power which used to flow through him, and the power to benefit nature began to degrade.
Many species disappeared when the animals began to express and learn the ways of distrust.
If nature is ever going to be restored you have fix the man first. Then everything may follow the order of systematic benevolence.
Without power, man is relatively useless to live for ever, to have a positive influence on all the inhabited planets - which is in plan B.
The earth was NOT made in 6 days, neither were humans. I am sorry someone sold you that mythology, but again, that is your baggage not ours.
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 11, 2018 at 6:10 pm
(March 10, 2018 at 11:38 pm)Banned Wrote: (March 10, 2018 at 11:12 pm)wallym Wrote: So they (animals) were intelligently designed for a world without death?
Do you believe animals predated humans? Like dinosaurs were here. Then died off. Then humans came around? If original sin was the death source, would you need humans first to have extinctions?
Plan A.
Animals were designed to live forever.
Animals were created in the same week of creation.
The world was designed to respond to the presence of human beings, just like the universe is influenced by the presence of God, whether he interacts with it or not.
So a man could choose to benefit or change the world around him or just be there, and benefits would flow both ways.
There was a time when animals had no fear of man, and would approach him with trust.
When the relationship to God was severed, man lost the divine power which used to flow through him, and the power to benefit nature began to degrade.
Many species disappeared when the animals began to express and learn the ways of distrust.
If nature is ever going to be restored you have fix the man first. Then everything may follow the order of systematic benevolence.
Without power, man is relatively useless to live for ever, to have a positive influence on all the inhabited planets - which is in plan B.
How do Dinosaurs fit into the timeline? Also curious how over population would have been addressed if animals lived forever. The world would be covered in fruit flies, wouldn't it?
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 11, 2018 at 6:11 pm
expect a lengthy rant
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RE: So today at the bank................
March 13, 2018 at 1:36 pm
I understand your frustration. However, at the end of the day you just gotta respect someone's beliefs whether they are true or not Just smile and nod. lol Also, if your advisor begins to try to preach to you then tell em' you're not interested.
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