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Nationwide A March For Our Lives
#71
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
The #1 killer of school children is Teen Driver Car Accident Statistics
https://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/who-was-injured/teen/teen-driving-statistics.html

But let's just ignore that and demonize something we refuse to learn the truth about. k?
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#72
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:13 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 7:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If they where no longer allowed to do abortions, then I for one, would have no problem with funding the organization.  And I would think that this would be a common opinion.  

Otherwise, I say give the money to someone who is in the business of saving lives (not taking them).

1. NOT YOUR BODY MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

2. If you claim it is your GOD'S JOB to judge, THEN STOP FUCKING TRYING TO DO HIS JOB FOR HIM ASSHOLE. According to believers he is supposed to be "all powerful".

3. I never get a good answer as to what the punishment for the teen/or adult female should be. If you are going to stupidly call it murder, if TWO bank robbers go into a bank and one kills the teller, BOTH are charged EQUALLY. Now PONY UP with a punishment for the female OR STFU!

4. NOW I cannot stress this enough. STOP FUCKING acting like those who are pro choice love abortions like it is a keg party. NO WE DON'T throw a party over it. WE would love nothing more than for EVERY pregnancy to be wanted and healthy, BUT THAT is a utopia. All outlawing abortion will do IS KILL MORE FEMALES. Now if you claim it is not our job to play god, then who are you to play god? If you want REAL oppression try Saudi Arabia or Iran.

5. Are you going to adopt every unwanted kid? Do you stupidly think there are enough people who can? 

6. GET A MEDICAL DEGREE OR SEE #1

Now you have no damned right bring this or even firearms up if your position on kids or even the economic stability of their parents is "fuck you I got mine".

ECONOMIC stability, education, health care and livable wages WILL reduce BOTH abortions AND firearm violence BECAUSE that will allow the PARENTS to have more time to be involved in the lives of their kids. 

NONE of what the GOP does or wants will reduce either.

I didn't bring it up; your buddy Tiz did. I was just commenting on a claim, that I am fairly certain is false. I don't see any of your reasons as justification to kill a human being, but that is another topic.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#73
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:22 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:13 am)Brian37 Wrote: 1. NOT YOUR BODY MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

2. If you claim it is your GOD'S JOB to judge, THEN STOP FUCKING TRYING TO DO HIS JOB FOR HIM ASSHOLE. According to believers he is supposed to be "all powerful".

3. I never get a good answer as to what the punishment for the teen/or adult female should be. If you are going to stupidly call it murder, if TWO bank robbers go into a bank and one kills the teller, BOTH are charged EQUALLY. Now PONY UP with a punishment for the female OR STFU!

4. NOW I cannot stress this enough. STOP FUCKING acting like those who are pro choice love abortions like it is a keg party. NO WE DON'T throw a party over it. WE would love nothing more than for EVERY pregnancy to be wanted and healthy, BUT THAT is a utopia. All outlawing abortion will do IS KILL MORE FEMALES. Now if you claim it is not our job to play god, then who are you to play god? If you want REAL oppression try Saudi Arabia or Iran.

5. Are you going to adopt every unwanted kid? Do you stupidly think there are enough people who can? 

6. GET A MEDICAL DEGREE OR SEE #1

Now you have no damned right bring this or even firearms up if your position on kids or even the economic stability of their parents is "fuck you I got mine".

ECONOMIC stability, education, health care and livable wages WILL reduce BOTH abortions AND firearm violence BECAUSE that will allow the PARENTS to have more time to be involved in the lives of their kids. 

NONE of what the GOP does or wants will reduce either.

I didn't bring it up; your buddy Tiz did.   I was just commenting on a claim, that I am fairly certain is false.  I don't see any of your reasons as justification to kill a human being, but that is another topic.

Ok, PONY UP with a punishment for the female, don't be an intellectual coward and solely focus on the doctor. I'm waiting.
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#74
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 7:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 7:44 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Lol then it's you who is being foolish. They want to defund the whole organization not just they abortion part. The whole organization . That would include cancer screening . So yes the comic is accurate because that would be the result of defunding the organization .Which they want to do.

If they where no longer allowed to do abortions, then I for one, would have no problem with funding the organization.  And I would think that this would be a common opinion.  

Otherwise, I say give the money to someone who is in the business of saving lives (not taking them).

1.  But it isn't a 'common opinion', because no right-to-life group opposing PP has any platform other than to defund it entirely.

2.  If you think Planned Parenthood doesn't save lives, you're even more ignorant than I had imagined.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#75
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
Teen-driver automobile accidents claim thousands more lives annually than all school shootings combined. But let's ignore that inconvenient truth and demonize a bogeyman for the political points and virtue-signalling ego strokes that make us 'feel better.'
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#76
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 7:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If they where no longer allowed to do abortions, then I for one, would have no problem with funding the organization.  And I would think that this would be a common opinion.  

Otherwise, I say give the money to someone who is in the business of saving lives (not taking them).

1.  But it isn't a 'common opinion', because no right-to-life group opposing PP has any platform other than to defund it entirely.

2.  If you think Planned Parenthood doesn't save lives, you're even more ignorant than I had imagined.

Boru

You are correct...I mean comparatively for taking lives vs saving them.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#77
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:39 am)Lok1 Wrote: Teen-driver automobile deaths claim thousands more lives annually than all school shootings combined. But let's ignore that inconvenient truth and demonize a bogeyman for the political points and virtue-signalling ego strokes that make us 'feel better.'

That is human stupidity not violence.
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#78
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 1:59 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(March 24, 2018 at 11:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If Australia and Scotland can put a stop to firearm violence what makes you think America cant?

We know what the solution is, stop the OBSTRUCTION of the NRA and the GOP. 

You know what has not been well thought out as far as solutions? Sell more and do nothing.

That sounds like more than a rant than a solution.  Are you looking to get rid of the 2nd amendment?  Is your plan to just stop gun deaths?  Does it matter if someone dies another way?

No I am not out to rid the 2nd dipshit. But just so you know it is STILL an amendment. Have you ever read the history of Amendments?

I hate to tell you this, but even if you tried to fight the government they have tanks and jets, good luck moron.

And if you really want to be a strict originalist you can have a musket. Oh FYI you do know even back then with muskets they had LAWS regulating the technology of muskets and size of the musket ball.

800,000 safety advocates were just "ranting" in DC. Sorry buddy, but if you see your friend get their head blown off, I'd say you have every fucking right to "rant". 

My dad got drunk off his ass when I was a kid and shot his 38 with me in the room. Yea, I have a right to "rant" as well. I have furniture with BULLET HOLES in them. 

Instead of responding like a paranoid BRAT how about you grow up? Your self righteous garbage isn't going to fly with me. 

Now here is the damned list that WILL WORK.

1. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS

2. Waiting period

3. Give families and law enforcement and teachers THE POWER to investigate potentially disturbed individuals, regardless of motive, kid, domestic abuser, mentally ill, violent criminals. It is a lie that no record at time of buy can prevent violence after a legal buy.

4. Ban on spray riffles, big clips for either riffles/handguns,  and bump stocks.

5. Nobody under 21

6. Must have firearm safe with UNLOADED firearm and ammo kept separately in the home.

7. Loss of the firearm with ANY domestic abuse or assault conviction.

9. Unless you have a LAGIT job that requires you to carry, like police, military, security guard, bounty hunter, bank truck guard, bounty hunter, private investigator. Leave your weapon at home. Unless you are transporting it for hunting or to a legal shooting range. In transport, kept in a case in the trunk.

^^^^^^^^^Now I defy you to show me anywhere in that list it is calling for a 100% ban on all firearms. There would be no point in saying "waiting periods" if I wanted to ban all firearm sales. There would be no point in talking about firearm safes required in the home if I was out to ban all ownership. There would be no point in me talking about how to transport if I wanted an all out ban.
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#79
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:48 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:39 am)Lok1 Wrote: Teen-driver automobile deaths claim thousands more lives annually than all school shootings combined. But let's ignore that inconvenient truth and demonize a bogeyman for the political points and virtue-signalling ego strokes that make us 'feel better.'

That is human stupidity not violence.

Yes, the narrative is the most important thing. Ignore all else while the bodies stack up.
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#80
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:59 am)Lok1 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:48 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: That is human stupidity not violence.

Yes, the narrative is the most important thing. Ignore all else while the bodies stack up.

Yes it is because you are talking about entirely different things. How would you march against stupidity ? 
Most car deaths are accidental so they are noy equivalent with gun deaths wich are murders wich are willed not made by accident.
This march is about restricting peoples means to express violence.
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